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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I'm only interested if it imprints a silhouette of Paul Revere on his horse.
    Firing muskets and ringing bells while riding off to warn the British, or simply riding through town to warn the rebels?
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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Firing muskets and ringing bells while riding off to warn the British, or simply riding through town to warn the rebels?
    Firings muskets, ringing bells and possibly even texting at the same time.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    This will be my last post here:
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    The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena. . .who strives. . .who spends himself. . .and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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    I had not considered S. Palin before this. Now I shall.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
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    I had not considered S. Palin before this. Now I shall.
    What in the world has she done that would ever stand up to such a statement? Saying silly **** eqauls being a strong person stumbling?

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And some historians say she is incorrect. People on both sides of this are cherry picking historians. It's hilarious.
    Which historians? So far, all I've seen are an author and the manager of a gift shop.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Maybe if you say she was correct enough times, people will start to believe it.
    Have you been able to dig up primary source docs proving her wrong? No? Didn't think so.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Have you been able to dig up primary source docs proving her wrong? No? Didn't think so.
    You're being silly. Not sure how to deal with someone doing this. But the fact is, she was wrong.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Have you been able to dig up primary source docs proving her wrong? No? Didn't think so.
    Did you? You were given quotes where Palin said it was part of Revere's ride to warn the British. You were asked to dig up primary souce docs proving her right. Did you? No? Didn't think so.
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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post

    Have you been able to dig up primary source docs proving her wrong? No? Didn't think so.
    Now that's rich coming from the poster who didn't even know what Palin said ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    Accordng to her, it was...

    "Part of his ride was to warn the British" ~ Sarah Palin

    No, part of his ride was not to warn the British. She got that wrong too and her acolytes simply can't accept that.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post

    Damn, her actual words just keep changin' and changin'.

    Where did she say, "it was part of his ride"?
    [Emphasis added]
    "... but remember that the British had already been there, many soldiers for seven years in that area and part of Paul Revere's ride, and it wasn't just one ride, he was a courrier, he was a messenger; part of his ride was to warn the British that we we're already there, that hey, you’re not going to succeed. You’re not gonna take American arms." ~ Sarah "The Quitter" Palin
    You don't even know what she said -- but you know she was right??
    Last edited by Sheik Yerbuti; 06-10-11 at 07:08 PM.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    How Accurate Were Palin's Paul Revere Comments? : NPR

    Prof. ALLISON: Well, he's not firing warning shots. He is telling people so that they can ring bells to alert others. What he's doing is going from house to house, knocking on doors of members of the Committees of Safety, saying the regulars are out. That is, he knew that General Gage was sending troops out to Lexington and Concord, really Concord, to seize the weapons being stockpiled there, but also perhaps to arrest John Hancock and Samuel Adams, leaders of the Continental Congress who were staying in the town of Lexington.

    Remember, Gage was planning - this is a secret operation; that's why he's moving at night. He gets over to Cambridge, the troops start marching from Cambridge, and church bells are ringing throughout the countryside.

    BLOCK: So Paul Revere was ringing those bells? He was a silversmith, right?

    Prof. ALLISON: Well, he was - he also was a bell ringer. That is, he rang the bells at Old North Church as a boy. But he, personally, is not getting off his horse and going to ring bells. He's telling other people - and this is their system before Facebook, before Twitter, before NPR - this was the way you get a message out, is by having people ring church bells, and everyone knows there is an emergency.

    And by this time, of course, the various town committees of safety, militia knew what the signals were, so they knew something was afoot. So this is no longer a secret operation for the British.

    Revere isn't trying to alert the British, but he is trying to warn them. And in April of 1775, no one was talking about independence. We're still part of the British Empire. We're trying to save it. So this is a warning to the British Empire what will happen if you provoke Americans.

    BLOCK:Sarah Palin also was saying there that Paul Revere's message to the British in his warning was: You're not going to take American arms - you know, basically a Second Amendment argument, even though the Second Amendment didn't exist then.

    Prof. ALLISON: Yeah. She was making a Second Amendment case. But in fact, the British were going out to Concord to seize colonists' arms, the weapons that the Massachusetts Provincial Congress was stockpiling there.

    So, yeah, she is right in that. I mean, she may be pushing it too far to say this is a Second Amendment case. Of course, neither the Second Amendment nor the Constitution was in anyone's mind at the time. But the British objective was to get the arms that were stockpiled in Concord.

    BLOCK: So you think basically, on the whole, Sarah Palin got her history right.

    Prof. ALLISON: Well, yeah, she did. And remember, she is a politician. She's not an historian. And God help us when historians start acting like politicians, and I suppose when politicians start writing history.
    That's the most pathetic spin I have ever seen. He didn't ring bells or shot a gun... Israel Bissell did, and he wasn't warning anybody to secure their guns.

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