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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Would you mind quoting him saying that? Shouldn't be hard since he wrote about his adventure in several letters and never, ever, said that.


    I wouldn't mind, at all:

    "He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and added that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above."
    These are his words, describing his warning when the British detained him.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Since when is using a quote bull****? You are extremely dishonest.
    Using the quote, out of context, is dishonest.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, that's not what she said. You just didn't know enough about the history of the period to understand what she was talking about. Now that you do, you can't bring yourself to admit that she didn't cock it up, as much as you say.
    The statements could be considered close enough to a truth to be stretched into saying she meant what history recorded. But quite honestly, y'all trying defend her just can't bring yourselves to admit that she cocked it up more than you say she did.
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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley

    Yes, but that isn't what she said. She said that is what his ride was about, what his purpose was. It wasn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post

    No, that's not what she said. You just didn't know enough about the history of the period to understand what she was talking about. Now that you do, you can't bring yourself to admit that she didn't cock it up, as much as you say.
    Umm, yeah, that's exactly what she said...
    "Part of his ride was to warn the British that we we're already there, that hey, you’re not going to succeed. You’re not gonna take American arms." ~ Sarah Palin
    No part of his ride was to warn the British. In fact, every part of his ride was to avoid the British.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Umm, yeah, that's exactly what she said...
    "Part of his ride was to warn the British that we we're already there, that hey, you’re not going to succeed. You’re not gonna take American arms." ~ Sarah Palin
    No part of his ride was to warn the British. In fact, every part of his ride was to avoid the British.
    Here is where the bell ringing comes into play. I know you've been hung up on that for several days now.

    Well, he’s not firing warning shots. He is telling people so that they can ring bells to alert others. What he’s doing is going from house to house, knocking on doors of members of the Committees of Safety, saying the regulars are out. That is, he knew that General Gage was sending troops out to Lexington and Concord, really Concord, to seize the weapons being stockpiled there, but also perhaps to arrest John Hancock and Samuel Adams, leaders of the Continental Congress who were staying in the town of Lexington.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I wouldn't mind, at all:


    I told him; and added that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up
    These are his words, describing his warning when the British detained him.
    Nope, nothing about arms in that warning. The words, "arms", "guns", "weapons", "pistols", etc..., are not even in there.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The statements could be considered close enough to a truth to be stretched into saying she meant what history recorded. But quite honestly, y'all trying defend her just can't bring yourselves to admit that she cocked it up more than you say she did.
    She didn't do a very good job of explaining what she meant to the uninformed, but she wasn't wrong.

    Unless, of course, you can show us some primary source documentation that proves she is wrong. Can you?

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Nope, nothing about arms in that warning. The words, "arms", "guns", "weapons", "pistols", etc..., are not even in there.
    I guess you don't understand what, "cached", means in the context of Revere's words?

    I'll explain for you: when he mentions, "cache", he's talking about weapons. When he says that, "five hundred Americans would be there in short time", he meant that 500 Colonist militiamen would show up at that spot to collect those arms and be ready for action.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    She didn't do a very good job of explaining what she meant to the uninformed, but she wasn't wrong.

    Unless, of course, you can show us some primary source documentation that proves she is wrong. Can you?
    I don't think at any point in the ride, it was Revere's mission to alert the British. He got captured, he lied to them so they wouldn't go to Lexington or Concord I believe. He wasn't intending to say anything about the arms or the Revolutionary Army taking them out, not as the initial purpose of the ride. These are things done after capture. It wasn't so much the 2nd amendment sort of argument that her initial statement makes it seem. As I said, what she said was close enough to a truth that others can interpret her as recounting history. But it's not 100%, and it was spoken fairly poorly.

    In the end, with all the conservatives out there; there has to be one which holds to values as people claim Palin does and can speak well enough to clearly convey meaning. You should find that person.
    Last edited by Ikari; 06-09-11 at 06:21 PM.
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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Umm, yeah, that's exactly what she said...
    "Part of his ride was to warn the British that we we're already there, that hey, you’re not going to succeed. You’re not gonna take American arms." ~ Sarah Palin
    No part of his ride was to warn the British. In fact, every part of his ride was to avoid the British.
    We'll just assume you skipped over the posts where it was shown that Paul Rever did indeed 'warn the British' about taking our arms, stored in Concord. I know you'd never look at factual evidence and simply, ignore it.

    Sure, it was not the original intent of the ride, or even part of the mission officially. But it did happen, and apparently Palin knew it. SHe flubbed the telling seriously badly of course, but she had part of the basic idea of that correct.

    Hatred blinds people I suppose.


    BTW... did Palin ever actually 'say' 2nd amendment at the time? Or is that waht people read into her comments about 'taking our arms'?
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