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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    There were no bells, he had lanterns. This was not about them taking our guns, it was about them arresting independence leaders. Why the hell are guys even trying to defend her?
    on the contrary - the movement of 700 British Regulars from Boston was explicitely to find an destroy a cache of powder, cannon, and guns that the Militia had at Concord.

    my question is, why the hell are people so eager to fall behind an obviously false narrative, irrespective of it's emotional appeal.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It was about both, actually.
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    ...700 British Army regulars, under Lieutenant Colonel Francis Smith, were given secret orders to capture and destroy military supplies that were reportedly stored by the Massachusetts militia at Concord....

    General Gage called a meeting of his senior officers at the Province House. He informed them that orders from Lord Dartmouth had arrived, ordering him to take action against the colonials. He also told them that the senior colonel of his regiments, Lieutenant Colonel Smith, would command, with Major John Pitcairn as his executive officer. The meeting adjourned around 8:30 pm, after which Lord Percy mingled with town folk on Boston Common. According to one account, the discussion among people there turned to the unusual movement of the British soldiers in the town. When Percy questioned one man further, the man replied, "Well, the regulars will miss their aim". "What aim?" asked Percy. "Why, the cannon at Concord" was the reply..

    When the troops arrived in the village of Concord, Smith divided them to carry out Gage's orders. The 10th Regiment's company of grenadiers secured South Bridge under Captain Mundy Pole, while seven companies of light infantry under Captain Parsons, numbering about 100, secured the North Bridge near Barrett's force. Captain Parsons took four companies from the 5th, 23rd, 38th and 52nd Regiments up the road 2 miles (3.2 km) beyond the North Bridge to search Barrett's Farm, where intelligence indicated supplies would be found.[62] Two companies from the 4th and 10th were stationed to guard their return route, and one company from the 43rd remained guarding the bridge itself. These companies, which were under the relatively inexperienced command of Captain Walter Laurie, were aware that they were significantly outnumbered by the 400-plus militia men that were only a few hundred yards away. The concerned Captain Laurie sent a messenger to Smith requesting reinforcements.[63]

    Using detailed information provided by Loyalist spies, the grenadier companies searched the small town for military supplies. When they arrived at Ephraim Jones's tavern, by the jail on the South Bridge road, they found the door barred shut, and Jones refused them entry. According to reports provided by local Tories, Pitcairn knew cannon had been buried on the property. Jones was ordered at gunpoint to show where the guns were buried. These turned out to be three massive pieces, firing 24-pound shot, that were much too heavy to use defensively, but very effective against fortifications, with sufficient range to bombard the city of Boston from other parts of nearby mainland.[64] The grenadiers smashed the trunnions of these three guns so they could not be mounted. They also burned some gun carriages found in the village meetinghouse, and when the fire spread to the meetinghouse itself, local resident Martha Moulton persuaded the soldiers to help in a bucket brigade to save the building.[65] Nearly a hundred barrels of flour and salted food were thrown into the millpond, as were 550 pounds of musket balls. Of the damage done, only that done to the cannon was significant. All of the shot and much of the food was recovered after the British left. During the search, the regulars were generally scrupulous in their treatment of the locals, including paying for food and drink consumed. This excessive politeness was used to advantage by the locals, who were able to misdirect searches from several smaller caches of militia supplies.[66]...
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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    So, are we actually saying that Palin was referring to the smaller event of Revere's ride and not him warning the Americans?

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    we are saying that if you're touring something, you're probably reading up on it. and if you make comments that are contrary to a famous poem, but happen to be historically accurate, then you are correct, not the media narrative that you are So Stupid For Not Citing The Poem's Narrative.


    Are those attacking her actually saying that they have mind-reading abilities, and happen to know that even though she was correct, she didn't know she was correct?

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    No I am calling out the fact though people are saying she meant to say Revere warned the British, not the colonies. I mean let's be honest, this is probably a gaffe that ended up working more into her favor because she cannot be called an idiot like Bachmann for saying that Lexington and Concord was in New Hampshire.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    we are saying that if you're touring something, you're probably reading up on it. and if you make comments that are contrary to a famous poem, but happen to be historically accurate, then you are correct, not the media narrative that you are So Stupid For Not Citing The Poem's Narrative.


    Are those attacking her actually saying that they have mind-reading abilities, and happen to know that even though she was correct, she didn't know she was correct?

    Warning the British was not a part of the mission even tough Palin seems to think otherwise:

    "Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there that 'hey, you're not going to take American arms, you are not going to beat our own well-armed persons individual private militia that we have.'"

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post

    Palin was correct so where is the apology?

    Sarah Palin is correct: Paul Revere did warn the British
    From your own link ...

    "Sarah Palin is correct: Paul Revere did warn the British sort of"

    Translation: not correct.

    First of all, she claimed he warned the British they weren't going to take our arms away; then she said he warned the Americans (as if the colonists were American) that they weren't going to take our arms away;

    Secondly, Paul Revere did not warn the British they weren't going to take our arms away;

    Thirdly, she said, "he was a courrier, he was a messenger, part of his ride was to warn the British that we we're already there." Except that his role as a courrier/messenger didn't include riding to warn the British about anything. That was the result of him unfortunately getting captured by the same British Palin thinks Revere rode to warn. Not to mention, his mission that night was to ride to Lexington to deliver a message to Adams and Hancock, which he completed without warning the British about anything. It was only after he completed that mission that he was captured.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    No I am calling out the fact though people are saying she meant to say Revere warned the British, not the colonies. I mean let's be honest, this is probably a gaffe that ended up working more into her favor because she cannot be called an idiot like Bachmann for saying that Lexington and Concord was in New Hampshire.
    It can probably be said that she dodged the bullet on this one, but let's not pretend that what she said happened, didn't happen. The people who are constantly harping that argument are making themselves look foolish, especially in light of the evidence that has been presented.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post

    Conservapedia... I'm not familiar with it. Is it something like Little Green Footballs, or is it more like the Onion?

    Surely, no one actually takes it seriously, do they?
    Conservapedia.com is actually a very funny site, though it doesn't intend to be. It was borne of the frustration of uber-Conservative, Andy Schlafly (son of Phyllis Schlafly), who created it so he could post whatever nonsense he felt like after Wikipedia.com kept correcting his rightwinged edits on their website.

    The entry on Paul Revere is just one example of the bizarro world some Conservatives create for themselves because they can't handle the real world.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

    As a reward for this national history lesson, I would hope the GOP nominate her to be their party standard bearer in 2012. She deserves nothing less.
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