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    Re: Iraqis wary of decision on U.S. troops

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    they should be paying the full freight for our support now.
    agreed. if we are going to serve as their police force, they should pay us
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    Re: Iraqis wary of decision on U.S. troops

    Unfortunately this is the normal policy of the US. Here we are nearly a century later and we still have troops in Japan, South Korea, Germany, and I am sure we will maintain a presence in Iraq for the forseeable future.

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    Re: Iraqis wary of decision on U.S. troops

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    What obligation will we have if we leave and another country takes advantage of our absense and Iraq's weak army?
    Should have thought about that before we removed the government that was keeping Iraq's enemies at bay with bluffs. They've had 8 years to get their **** together. If they haven't done it by now, they never will, and we simply can't afford to keep protecting the government we set up from their own people.
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    Re: Iraqis wary of decision on U.S. troops

    I'm on the fence on payment. The people of Iraq weren't safe from their leaders, but they were relatively safe from outsiders. Then we go in, get rid of the leaders, and weaken their entire security infrastructure. The elite team Saddam had isn't the same team they have now. So we leave while they're in a weakened state as a direct result of our actions...and they're vulnerable. If they legitimately need more time to strengthen their national security I'm not so sure I'd be fighting mad if they didn't pay.

    That said, though...I worry about "oil for troops". People already believe we were there for oil. If we make an agreement on oil in exchange for protection it will just prove their point.
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    Re: Iraqis wary of decision on U.S. troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Should have thought about that before we removed the government that was keeping Iraq's enemies at bay with bluffs. They've had 8 years to get their **** together. If they haven't done it by now, they never will, and we simply can't afford to keep protecting the government we set up from their own people.
    So now it's just, "oh well, we're done...good luck!"?? We'll essentially risk punishing the citizens of Iraq for our decisions?
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    Re: Iraqis wary of decision on U.S. troops

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    dude, get a clue, every 6-8 months they sign some new freakin agreement to allow US troops to stay another 6 months or a year. and what makes you think I support Obama's Iraq policy? I just stated the plain and simple truth.
    You are wrong. There has been no change in the date (Dec 31, 2011) established under the S.O.F.A. signed by the US and Iraq under the Bush Administration.
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    Re: Iraqis wary of decision on U.S. troops

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    So now it's just, "oh well, we're done...good luck!"?? We'll essentially risk punishing the citizens of Iraq for our decisions?
    it's not like it's 2007. it's been 8 years.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Iraqis wary of decision on U.S. troops

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Unfortunately this is the normal policy of the US. Here we are nearly a century later and we still have troops in Japan, South Korea, Germany, and I am sure we will maintain a presence in Iraq for the forseeable future.
    a presence is fine. 50k troops is not.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Iraqis wary of decision on U.S. troops

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's not like it's 2007. it's been 8 years.
    Right. And the Iraqi army is largely made up of men who had no prior access to defense training of any kind. How many years did it take America to become legitimately secure after/during the Revolutionary war?
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    Re: Iraqis wary of decision on U.S. troops

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    So now it's just, "oh well, we're done...good luck!"?? We'll essentially risk punishing the citizens of Iraq for our decisions?
    The Iraqis demanded all our troops be out of Iraq by Dec 31 of this year. We have a signed agreement to that effect.
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