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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    That was probably the one thing algore said that I agreed with, unfortunately he was a pathological liar so just because he said it didn't mean I believed he would do it. Where is crazy Al lately anyway? He's been kinda quiet since he got busted for beating up hookers and Tipper dumped his fat ass.
    Feel better? I hope so, because you missed the point completely.
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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Subject was Gore lock box. Point was he was a pathological liar so why believe he would do anything he said he would. Slamming him for beating up hookers just drives the point home. The guys INSANE!

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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I blame our gov, both parties.
    HERE! HERE! to that.

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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Bring our Military back home, quit meddling in foreign affairs, quit foreign aide, all of it, tax imports, bring jobs back home, put able bodied welfare recipients to work, close the borders, rethink the war on drugs.
    Yes we can.
    Even if we cut military spending in half (which we should), it won't make a dent in the deficit.
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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Subject was Gore lock box. Point was he was a pathological liar so why believe he would do anything he said he would. Slamming him for beating up hookers just drives the point home. The guys INSANE!
    Oh you preferred the "sanity" of the guy who lied about the reasons for taking the country to war in Iraq, with the SS money we didn't lock.

    Aren't you the clever one!
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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Even if we cut military spending in half (which we should), it won't make a dent in the deficit.
    It most certainly will make a dent, especially if we include ALL the military spending, which heretofore has been hidden through usage of the SS trust funds. Ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq alone will save $150 billion a year.
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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It most certainly will make a dent, especially if we include ALL the military spending, which heretofore has been hidden through usage of the SS trust funds. Ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq alone will save $150 billion a year.
    $150 Billion isn't much of a dent in $1.3 trillion. If we eliminated 100% of our military spending it wouldn't even amount to half of our deficit. We spend to much on "defense", but we spend far more on other things.
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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    why cap it at $180,000
    why should the rich not be subject to tax on their entire income just as the lower class wage earners
    their high incomes do not prevent them from being able to draw social security - at the highest levels available
    Bad argument is bad. Almost every single change proposed to Social Security has been to means test it--and no one has complained and all seem to agree its a needed change.

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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    $150 Billion isn't much of a dent in $1.3 trillion. If we eliminated 100% of our military spending it wouldn't even amount to half of our deficit. We spend to much on "defense", but we spend far more on other things.
    That is just from ending our 2 middle east wars, than add on a 50% cut in military spending, and the $4 trillion in increased revenues over 10 years from eliminating the Bush tax cuts and you are looking at some real deficit reduction. If we also add in an upgrade of our health care system to that of the rest of the industrialized world, the deficit reduction looks even better.
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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That is just from ending our 2 middle east wars, than add on a 50% cut in military spending, and the $4 trillion in increased revenues over 10 years from eliminating the Bush tax cuts and you are looking at some real deficit reduction. If we also add in an upgrade of our health care system to that of the rest of the industrialized world, the deficit reduction looks even better.
    No, no. Our entire yearly military budget is less than have the annual deficit. So, even if we spent $0 on the military next year, we'd still have over $700 Billion in deficit spending. Of course, spending $0 on defense would be ludicrous.
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