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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I think you have your head in the sand. The money is gone. It was replaced by IOUs. We can never make it up. The Ponzi scheme is collapsing.
    Bring our Military back home, quit meddling in foreign affairs, quit foreign aide, all of it, tax imports, bring jobs back home, put able bodied welfare recipients to work, close the borders, rethink the war on drugs.
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    So the full faith and credit of the USA means nothing to you? The Constitution means nothing to you? The welfare of American people means nothing to you?

    Amazing.
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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Bring our Military back home, quit meddling in foreign affairs, quit foreign aide, all of it, tax imports, bring jobs back home, put able bodied welfare recipients to work, close the borders, rethink the war on drugs.
    Yes we can.
    The issue with 90% of what you mention is the need for oil to maintain our lifestyle.
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    Re: The results are in on social security

    I remember when Barney and Dem's in general said Fannie and Freddie were solvent, no worries. If SS is in such great shape why Is Obama saying people wont get their checks unless we can borrow more money from China and raise taxes on Americans? Fuzzy math squared.

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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Bring our Military back home, quit meddling in foreign affairs, quit foreign aide, all of it, tax imports, bring jobs back home, put able bodied welfare recipients to work, close the borders, rethink the war on drugs.
    Yes we can.
    Hoax and chains?
    Return each department to the size it had on the day the president took the oath of office. Eliminate spending on nObamacare. Widen the tax base so that all working Americans pay federal income taxes. Eliminate all income tax credits.

    Or do absolutely nothing and see what happens.

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    Re: The results are in on social security

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    Widen the tax base so that all working Americans pay federal income taxes.
    That resulted from the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts in which 91% of the YES votes came from Republican members of Congress. I would support letting ALL those expire.
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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL, imagine that, the GOP criticizes Obama for wanting to do what a majority of non federal income tax paying Americans want him to do, eliminate tax breaks for the wealthy and cut spending to reduce the deficit! Shocking I tell you, shocking!
    I think my added bolded words provide an appropriate little extra something that makes it all clear.

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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post

    Widen the tax base so that all working Americans pay federal income taxes.
    That resulted from the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts in which 91% of the YES votes came from Republican members of Congress. I would support letting ALL those expire.
    I think you are saying that president Bush signed laws removing people from the tax rolls. If that is what you meant to say I completely agree with you. It is time to reverse course so that all pay some instead of some paying all.

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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    kinda looks like President Clinton's ex secretary of labor has the social security problem figured out.



    < Back in 1983, the ceiling was set so the Social Security payroll tax would hit 90 percent of all wages covered by Social Security. That 90 percent figure was built into the Greenspan Commissionís fixes. The Commission assumed that, as the ceiling rose with inflation, the Social Security payroll tax would continue to hit 90 percent of total income.>


    <Today, though, the Social Security payroll tax hits only about 84 percent of total income.>

    <If we want to go back to 90 percent, the ceiling on income subject to the Social Security tax would need to be raised to $180,000.>


    <Presto. Social Securityís long-term (beyond 26 years from now) problem would be solved.>

    Robert Reich (The Only Social Security Reform Worth Considering: Raising the Ceiling on Income Subject to It)
    sounds like a reasonable solution.

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    Re: The results are in on social security

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I think you are saying that president Bush signed laws removing people from the tax rolls. If that is what you meant to say I completely agree with you. It is time to reverse course so that all pay some instead of some paying all.
    Bush came up with the initiatives and trumpeted in his State of the Union speeches. Then Congress voted to enact and 91% of the votes came from Republican members of both houses.

    Lets get rid of those - ALL the Bush tax cuts. I think everyone should be invested in the nation and all wage earners should at least pay 5% in taxes - no matter what deductions they have. 5% should be the minimum federal tax for those making the lowest incomes. I would impost other levels of a minimum ax at other levels so regardless of deductions, all end up paying.
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