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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    But you also don't see repubs offering this.



    Then vote libertarian.
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    But you also don't see repubs offering this.



    Then vote libertarian.
    As for the first statement. No, many of them are not. But I've heard a few mention similar ideas. As soon as somebody from either party is brave enough to stand up and make the suggestion, then defend it and fight for it despite the very obvious political price tag...I'll be the first one in line to advocate for the bill.
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Jesus, for the 213425345634th time...Nobody said Joplin wouldn't get or would have to wait for funds. Cantor said that Joplin will get funding, and the costs of that funding will be offset by cuts from other areas. He's saying, "we're paying for this responsibly". And that's a good thing. This is reactionary, emotional crap at it's best. If Harry Reid had said it verbatim, would you still be freaking out, calling for his head on a spike?
    I agree with your post. However, if Harry Reid had said it, the likes of these conservative haters here would have reveled in his prudence. The read what they want to read, then regurgitated nonsense that has nothing to do with the subject of providing funds for tornado victims. I guess they are so used to irresponsible government that they think citizens are privy to the entitlement de jour. Their responses provide evidence that it doesn't matter where the funds to pay for everything come from, the government damn well better provide it, and shame on you for not seeing things their way.

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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    I agree with your post. However, if Harry Reid had said it, the likes of these conservative haters here would have reveled in his prudence. The read what they want to read, then regurgitated nonsense that has nothing to do with the subject of providing funds for tornado victims. I guess they are so used to irresponsible government that they think citizens are privy to the entitlement de jour. Their responses provide evidence that it doesn't matter where the funds to pay for everything come from, the government damn well better provide it, and shame on you for not seeing things their way.

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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I won't be asking if I can avoid it. As I said, my life is my responsibility.
    I'm surprised you included the phrase "if I can avoid it." That implies that sometimes the need for aid cannot be avoided. Interesting.
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by Layla_Z View Post
    I'm surprised you included the phrase "if I can avoid it." That implies that sometimes the need for aid cannot be avoided. Interesting.
    I more meant that some things are mandated. I'm not aware of having the ability to deny government services like social security, medicare, etc.
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I more meant that some things are mandated. I'm not aware of having the ability to deny government services like social security, medicare, etc.
    No one forces you to take social security or medicare. You have to sign up for both which I'm sure you won't because you won't need them.
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by Layla_Z View Post
    No one forces you to take social security or medicare. You have to sign up for both which I'm sure you won't because you won't need them.
    Hopefully not, because at this rate they won't even exist.
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I hate probably 80% of liberal ideology. I think it's bad for the country. But I don't hate liberals. They honestly think (or so it seems) that their methods are best. But emotional generalizations and baiting attackings against the opposition are pointless. Avoiding reality specifically so you can blame the other guy? Also pointless. Not that Ikari is as guilty of the last, but plenty are.
    Libertarians are not liberals. As it relates to government response to its own people, it's well more important than running around "bringing freedom" to people we have no business interfering with. In this case specifically, the government is saying that they have to find the money first to try to fix it. But our own government has had a horrible record fixing our problems lately. They didn't say anything about "reasonable spending" when they were giving our money to the banks and hedge funds which caused the economic collapse. They don't talk about reasonable spending when giving out handouts and subsidies to corporations. Why is it that it comes up when we need to fix our own stuff, when our towns are broken and theoretically we could use government to expidite the repair process? Only now do they talk about reasonable spending. It's only when people they are unconcerned about are affected that it must become reasonable.

    This government was not built for the protection of others, to serve people in other countries. It was made to serve OUR needs, OUR rights, OUR liberties.

    As for "emotional outburst" or whatever the hell you want to say; it was nothing of the sort. It was a simple comment. It was double speak.
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Libertarians are not liberals. As it relates to government response to its own people, it's well more important than running around "bringing freedom" to people we have no business interfering with. In this case specifically, the government is saying that they have to find the money first to try to fix it. But our own government has had a horrible record fixing our problems lately. They didn't say anything about "reasonable spending" when they were giving our money to the banks and hedge funds which caused the economic collapse. They don't talk about reasonable spending when giving out handouts and subsidies to corporations. Why is it that it comes up when we need to fix our own stuff, when our towns are broken and theoretically we could use government to expidite the repair process? Only now do they talk about reasonable spending. It's only when people they are unconcerned about are affected that it must become reasonable.

    This government was not built for the protection of others, to serve people in other countries. It was made to serve OUR needs, OUR rights, OUR liberties.

    As for "emotional outburst" or whatever the hell you want to say; it was nothing of the sort. It was a simple comment. It was double speak.
    Did I not clearly say in my post that you were not guilty of an emotional outburst?
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