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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Kind of reminds me of my family life. If my wife falls down and breaks her leg, I take her to the hospital immediately, and worry about how I am going to pay for it later. Of course, if I am one of today's Republicans, I would have to figure out whether

    1) To stop giving her the thyroid medicine she needs, in order to balance my budget.

    2) To cut her back to one meal every 3 days in order to pay for it.

    3) Let her leg remain broken, so that I don't go deeper into debt.

    Hmm, you know, if I was that kind of a husband, my wife would divorce me in a heartbeat, because it would be obvious that I didn't give two craps about her. I think America needs to divorce today's Republican party.
    Or you can man up and figure it out yourself. No insurance? That won't last long because Obama has ensured you will purchase health care whether you can afford it or not. There are also lots of hospitals that take indigent patients if you can''t afford it. Or, ever heard of a credit card? You wouldn't be the first to live on a credit card for a period of time and pay it off when you can. Been there, done that. Or, hey, you can just let the government pay for it, right? Then you get to keep your wife, because living off the government shows her how just much you really love her.

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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Kind of reminds me of my family life. If my wife falls down and breaks her leg, I take her to the hospital immediately, and worry about how I am going to pay for it later. Of course, if I am one of today's Republicans, I would have to figure out whether

    1) To stop giving her the thyroid medicine she needs, in order to balance my budget.

    2) To cut her back to one meal every 3 days in order to pay for it.

    3) Let her leg remain broken, so that I don't go deeper into debt.

    Hmm, you know, if I was that kind of a husband, my wife would divorce me in a heartbeat, because it would be obvious that I didn't give two craps about her. I think America needs to divorce today's Republican party.
    Instead you're one of today's liberals.

    Don't plan for and have the means to get what you want, scream you're a victim, demand others pay for what it is you want because "you are entitled to it" then when it's pointed out we're you know, BANKRUPT, out come the heart string stoies of children and old people starving in the street to pay for rich people's golf lessons.

    Which of course, is exactly what Barry Goldwater was about, Government doing everything for you and the Children.
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Clearly, you are NOT reading my post entirely. Instead, you're just picking and choosing what you want to read.

    I've said it 3 TIMES that I understand the economic difficulties our country is in currently. I've also said I understand Congressman Cantor's point that in order to provide disaster relief funds to the victims of these natural (or man-made) disasters Congress would have to offset funds by reducing expenditures from other federally funded programs. I UNDERSTAND THAT and have said so in each of my posts.

    My problem with Cantor's remarks had everything to do with him politicizing the issue. If you can't understand how he used the tragedies to further the GOP call for still more spending cuts - right or wrong- then I can't make you see where in my view he went wrong in how he addressed the matter publically.

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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Kind of reminds me of my family life. If my wife falls down and breaks her leg, I take her to the hospital immediately, and worry about how I am going to pay for it later. Of course, if I am one of today's Republicans, I would have to figure out whether

    1) To stop giving her the thyroid medicine she needs, in order to balance my budget.

    2) To cut her back to one meal every 3 days in order to pay for it.

    3) Let her leg remain broken, so that I don't go deeper into debt.

    Hmm, you know, if I was that kind of a husband, my wife would divorce me in a heartbeat, because it would be obvious that I didn't give two craps about her. I think America needs to divorce today's Republican party.
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    If all the bleeding hearts in this thread could please just untwist their panties for just a second, maybe we could put Cantor's statement in context.

    Roy Blunt to Eric Cantor: Find the money to offset tornado aid - Jonathan Allen - POLITICO.com



    ...so Cantor isn't withholding anything. Sorry to disappoint you all, but the "Big Bad Republican Screwing The Poor" argument does not apply here. Any claims about his insensitivity are worthless. He's public official and he made a dispassionate statement.

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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Instead you're one of today's liberals.

    Don't plan for and have the means to get what you want, scream you're a victim, demand others pay for what it is you want because "you are entitled to it" then when it's pointed out we're you know, BANKRUPT, out come the heart string stoies of children and old people starving in the street to pay for rich people's golf lessons.

    Which of course, is exactly what Barry Goldwater was about, Government doing everything for you and the Children.
    How dare you sit there with that holier than thou attitude! No matter how much you plan and prepare things can happen to completely blow up those plans. For example, a tornado destroys your house, your child's school, and your workplace. The government is supposed to help people that need it. Needing help doesn't make you weak. Do you think liberals are the only people in Joplin needing help? Are the conservatives rebuilding their homes by hand?
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I woke up one night with very severe pain at my lower right abdominal area. WebMD said it could be a kidney stone or it could be my appendix. Since I wasn't peeing blood, and the pain was so severe I was puking, I had little choice but to go to the ER (not many PCPs open at night). I live paycheck to paycheck. I didn't have the money for it. It took me a year and a half to pay off that bill, WITH insurance. But I did it...because my health is my responsibility and mine alone. Forgive me if I don't pull out the violin for you.
    That's great that you could do that. Luckily you had a job and insurance, many don't. Luckily you weren't in the hospital so long that you lost your job and with it your insurance. Good thing you weren't laid off before you paid off the bill. Luckily nothing else major went wrong before you paid the bill. When getting you insurance, good thing you didn't have a pre-existing condition that kept you from getting insurance.

    I know that some people take advantage of government programs when they really don't need them, but that is not true of everyone. Sometimes good responsible people need help.
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by Layla_Z View Post
    How dare you sit there with that holier than thou attitude! No matter how much you plan and prepare things can happen to completely blow up those plans. For example, a tornado destroys your house, your child's school, and your workplace. The government is supposed to help people that need it. Needing help doesn't make you weak. Do you think liberals are the only people in Joplin needing help? Are the conservatives rebuilding their homes by hand?
    Is it, can you cite in the Constitution where this is? Wait, you'll zero in on the phrase "General welfare". Context is everything, and you fail if you go there.

    Homes and businesses, it's called INSURANCE, that you pay for. Don't have it, sucks to be you. School's are the School District/State's issue, and they rebuild those. That's just... duh part of Government to rebuild when it's buildings get waxed. Rebuild peoples homes? Businesses? Nope. Roads? Yes. Water supply? If it's municipal, certainly. If it's privately owned, nope.

    How dare YOU ma'am, believe you have some right to other people hard earned money, how dare YOU ma'am assume you have some right to have others fix your life for you, how dare YOU ma'am use a tragic incident in a town like Joplin to score petty political points.
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Quote Originally Posted by Layla_Z View Post
    That's great that you could do that. Luckily you had a job and insurance, many don't. Luckily you weren't in the hospital so long that you lost your job and with it your insurance. Good thing you weren't laid off before you paid off the bill. Luckily nothing else major went wrong before you paid the bill. When getting you insurance, good thing you didn't have a pre-existing condition that kept you from getting insurance.

    I know that some people take advantage of government programs when they really don't need them, but that is not true of everyone. Sometimes good responsible people need help.
    We can't afford to keep paying the leeches of society in the vain hope it helps "someone who really needs it".
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    Re: Eric Cantor: Disaster Relief For Joplin Tornado Victims Must Be Offset

    Makes perfect sense.

    The nation has to set priorities. If the libs have to decide if saving people is more important the keeping the stolen money flowing to NPR.

    It's about time the libs learned that the printing presses shouldn't be used to make funny money.

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