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    Re: Arizona SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Think what you want......
    Ive never noticed an eager-ness to enforce laws just for the purpose of confiscating property in my 5 years in law enforcement. And ive even seized stuff.
    I suspect that these kinds of things take place more often in rural areas where it's easier to get enough people in on the game to keep it going under wraps.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Arizona SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I suspect that these kinds of things take place more often in rural areas where it's easier to get enough people in on the game to keep it going under wraps.
    Not necessarily. I described in another thread that when I worked as CFO for a SoCalif bedroom community, the first of these civil seizure laws were passed and the police department promptly began conducting drug stings... note that drugs were not a big problem in those days in that community... strictly to seize citizen's property, which they then used as a police department slush fund that the city was not allowed to monitor or audit.

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    Re: Arizona SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    If law enforcement needs SWAT teams to bust pot dealers (misdemeanor by the way), they are chicken ****. I also wouldn't be surprised if his assault rifle was found and loaded after he was already dead.

    Though i know many "hippyish" pot dealers, I also know plenty of others who are nothing more than thugs and would have no issue with hospitalizing someone or even shooting them. So let's not act as if pot is anything more than a commodity to many of the people that sell it, or that they are nobler, in general, than your average drug dealer.

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    Re: Arizona SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    Though i know many "hippyish" pot dealers, I also know plenty of others who are nothing more than thugs and would have no issue with hospitalizing someone or even shooting them. So let's not act as if pot is anything more than a commodity to many of the people that sell it, or that they are nobler, in general, than your average drug dealer.

    Too bad they didn't find any pot in the house. The guy is just as dead.

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    Re: Arizona SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Not necessarily. I described in another thread that when I worked as CFO for a SoCalif bedroom community, the first of these civil seizure laws were passed and the police department promptly began conducting drug stings... note that drugs were not a big problem in those days in that community... strictly to seize citizen's property, which they then used as a police department slush fund that the city was not allowed to monitor or audit.
    The original federal civil seizure laws were so badly abused that Congress actually modified the legislation to address it. Iirc, it was the first time in a long time that Congress relegistated a law that quickly, and without the Supreme Courts intervention.

    Not sure of the details, but it WAS limited to reduce abuse.
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    Re: Arizona SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    Though i know many "hippyish" pot dealers, I also know plenty of others who are nothing more than thugs and would have no issue with hospitalizing someone or even shooting them. So let's not act as if pot is anything more than a commodity to many of the people that sell it, or that they are nobler, in general, than your average drug dealer.
    California is way more laid back. Must be the decriminalization. Other drugs get the violence thing, but pot not so much.
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    Re: Arizona SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Too bad they didn't find any pot in the house. The guy is just as dead.
    I was commenting on a remark about pot dealers, not the story in particular

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    Re: Arizona SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    California is way more laid back. Must be the decriminalization. Other drugs get the violence thing, but pot not so much.
    Of course it's the decriminalization. It's like alcohol, and the lack of bootleggers running whiskey from Canada and Mexico, since ending prohibition

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    Re: Arizona SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    ... the city was not allowed to monitor or audit.
    What was the rationale offered for that?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Arizona SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Trafficking Marijuana is not a misdemeanor.

    As per the rest of your comment.... It doesnt surprise me that a person so anti-police would suggest such an idiotic thing.
    Wiki says selling pot is a felony. I did not know that until now. I stand corrected.

    I'm not a Cop hater. I live on a cul-de-sac with two police officers and a police detective. I like the extra security that my home has against burglary.

    It's just that I've read enough articles about crooked Cops that they do not get an automatic pass with me. Yesterday, an east Oak Cliff man was sentenced to life in prison for killing an officer by firing through the door. The Cops were kicking in his door to serve a warrant against a cousin of his who wasn't even there at the time. He claimed that he thought that they were intruders.

    What ever happened to knocking on the door first? Why the police state intrusions? Obviously the jury felt something for the defendant. They wouldn't charge him with a capital crime. The Cops could have knocked, the defendant could have opened the door and told them that his cousin wasn't there. Let them search the house, whatever. Instead we get a deceased LEO and a man in the pen for a couple of decades.

    This all started when LEOs began being trained to "control the situation". Looks like some situations can't be readily controlled.
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