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    Re: A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah brainwashing facility

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Without any information on this person's life and situation other than their blog entry I cannot possibly draw a deep conclusion about the validity, facts, truth or real story - I side with parents when the child in question is possibly *really* messed up.

    For all we know this person's making *everything up* beginning to end just for ****s and giggles.

    Certainly there seems to be some reason to be suspicious of WWASP and Cross Creek's methods, due to all the lawsuits... but forming an opinion based on one account by an anonymous and admittedly troubled teen on the internet would probably be rather premature judgement.

    I find it particularly hard to believe that she was led through an airport with a belt around her chest and an "escort" towing her along by it, without a cop or security noticing and having a problem with that.

    If her account is accurate, it certainly does sound very harsh, yes. I wouldn't think that most parents would resort to something so extreme, though, unless their teen was literally self-destructing before their eyes.

    Hard to know what to think about it.

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    Re: A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah brainwashing facility

    I've read other accounts over the years of other places like Cross Creek, where gay teens are sent to be "de-gayed". The experiences they suffer through are equally harsh and degrading. Too much of this country still sees homosexuality as a defect to be cured, and causes tremendous harm to these poor kids in acting on their own petty fears. Gay teens are "troubled" because the culture in which they live brings down so much trouble upon them.
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    Re: A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah brainwashing facility

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    These subhuman vermin need to die slowly, and their names need to be forgotten.
    I agree. Homosexuals are useless to society.

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    Re: A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah brainwashing facility

    Considering some of the horror stories I've heard when working with our local stonewall youth program or teen council, this isn't that shocking.
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    Re: A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah brainwashing facility

    To judge without facts, and let your biases be your eyes... To make political claims based off an unproven scenario...

    ...how grand that must be.

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    Re: A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah brainwashing facility

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post

    There are endless reports of child molestation and other abuses in The Family (a Christian cult). I actually met someone who escaped The Family, which prompted me to look into them.

    Yet they never seem to get pinned. And in fact, they run the C Street Center that a lot of politicians frequent. Including some, like Ensign, accused and/or convicted of some pretty serious crimes.
    I have never herd of child molesting happening in The Family, and I wouldn't call it a cult, just a good ol boys club for Evangelicals. Please share your sources of those happenings

    Just read the article? Do people really no know that this stuff goes on every day? Really?
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    Re: A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah brainwashing facility

    The way I see it. This is a Michael Jackson type of accusation. The school gets accused over and over again of abusing and hurting children but it manages to get away through settlements and legal maneuvering. At the end of the day, the only people who don't want to acknowledge what is obvious are the true believers. Everyone else sees the issue for what it is.
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    Re: A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah brainwashing facility

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    I have never herd of child molesting happening in The Family, and I wouldn't call it a cult, just a good ol boys club for Evangelicals. Please share your sources of those happenings

    Just read the article? Do people really no know that this stuff goes on every day? Really?
    There are hundreds of such reports. I'd really recommend looking into it. My friend also had such experiences.

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    Re: A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah brainwashing facility

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Yea, this isn't the same group that runs C-street.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fam...l_organization)

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    Re: A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah brainwashing facility

    I'm not sure how Cross Creek comes to obtain it's troubled teens they're suppose to be helping.

    But my husband worked for a CSTEPP type program and every single one of those kids were there via judgment of the court after a lengthy series of crimes and mayhem - and the purpose was to either shape them up so they can join society again - or ship them off to juvenile detention so they can face a lifetime of incarceration.

    Every single one of those kids was ****ed up and had serious issues and parental guidance and love was doing nothing for them. . . every single one had 'earned' their place in that program and at that facility. *shrug*
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