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    Re: Venezuela Rejects US Sanctions, Evaluates Oil Supply to US

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    The jump in quality-of-life for most Venezuelans has been because oil prices tripled immediately after Chavez' revolution, not because of Chavez himself.
    It has everything to do with Chavez because without him and his policies all that extra money would not have gone into projects to lift the poor up but in the pockets of shareholders of a privatized oil industry, so that makes you incorrect.
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    Re: Venezuela Rejects US Sanctions, Evaluates Oil Supply to US

    its their communist dictator's fault.
    I know what I'm talking to now.

    Firstly poverty was half or more of the population before Chavez, it has some little to do with oil prices as it directly funds the Bolivarian missions. The literacy missions, and medical missions have been a relative success, smashing in some aspects.

    The programs themselves are only a blip on the radar or a continuation of a pre-existing programs (as in, programs that predated Chavez).
    Issue some damning proof.

    Also, it was not "PDVSA" in itself that supported the coup. It was the employees. And guess what? 18,000 of them were fired after the lockout ended. The same people aren't there anymore.
    Umm, I'm talking about the American led bit of the coup. But the PDVSA aspect of it is interesting, now that they're fired the nationalized oil sector actually operates under the government.

    Just because I don't support a repressive socialist dictator, doesn't mean I'm some sort of corporate neo-colonial stooge.
    Repressive dictator? You sound like my crazy Venezuelan grandma. Funny that.

    The link in the OP is to one of the better sources for news on Venezuela. CEPR (center for economic policy research) has alot of economic papers on Venezuela in relatively down to earth terms.

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    Re: Venezuela Rejects US Sanctions, Evaluates Oil Supply to US

    It's about time Obama decided to sanctions those really annoying vuvuzelas

    Ina serious note, we should be sanctioning Venezuela. It's a repressive country that constantly attacks America. They also have one of the most moronic leaders that exists exist on our planet Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars | Reuters
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    Re: Venezuela Rejects US Sanctions, Evaluates Oil Supply to US

    It's a repressive country
    proof... other than every time the people down south start stirring it is something born of the devil.

    And if you think Chavez took himself literally or seriously in saying capitalism ended life on mars you need to re-evaluate what your thinking.

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    Re: Venezuela Rejects US Sanctions, Evaluates Oil Supply to US

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't care what anyone says it is clear that either obama is a clueless dip**** or he is raising the price of oil on purpose. Eitherway, it would be nice if Obama could actually not **** up when it came to international relations for once.
    Who was raising the price of oil before obama then

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    Re: Venezuela Rejects US Sanctions, Evaluates Oil Supply to US

    Bush... when he orchestrated an international Iranian nuclear crisis panic when they were a decade from getting the bomb.

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    Re: Venezuela Rejects US Sanctions, Evaluates Oil Supply to US

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Bush... when he orchestrated an international Iranian nuclear crisis panic when they were a decade from getting the bomb.
    He was right then and hes right now...the only difference now is that they are alot closer to getting the bomb...Iran is not our friend we need to get that in our heads

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    Re: Venezuela Rejects US Sanctions, Evaluates Oil Supply to US

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    proof... other than every time the people down south start stirring it is something born of the devil.

    And if you think Chavez took himself literally or seriously in saying capitalism ended life on mars you need to re-evaluate what your thinking.
    Are you being discriminatory against people who live in the Southern US? Did I ever say Venezuela or Chavez were "born of the devil"?

    Chavez is an idiot. Regardless of if he took himself seriously or not, his comments were very moronic and only displayed his irrational arrogance and ignorance.
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    Re: Venezuela Rejects US Sanctions, Evaluates Oil Supply to US

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Chavez is an idiot.
    I can tell this isn't going anywhere. Chavez said what he said about mars out of the socialist ideological point that capitalism would lead to consumption of all resources until self destruction of the hypothetical civilization. But when you cut and paste and slap it on a newspaper and toss it around the blogosphere you can make anyone seem like an idiot.

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    Re: Venezuela Rejects US Sanctions, Evaluates Oil Supply to US

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    proof...
    Like an OAS report?

    Press Release No.20-10 - IACHR Publishes Report on Venezuela
    In the report's conclusions, the Commission finds that political intolerance; the lack of independence of the branches of the State in dealing with the executive; constraints on freedom of expression and the right to protest peaceably; the existence of a climate hostile to the free exercise of dissenting political participation and to monitoring activities on the part of human rights organizations; citizen insecurity; violent acts perpetrated against persons deprived of their liberty, trade union members, women, and campesinos; and, above all, the prevailing impunity affecting cases of human rights violations are factors that contribute to the weakening of the rule of law and democracy in Venezuela and that have resulted in serious restrictions to the full enjoyment of the human rights guaranteed in the American Convention on Human Rights.
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