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John McCain: Sarah Palin Can Beat Obama In 2012

The GOP is just throwing out chum, baiting the waters to see what might show up. So far, only the more gullible fish are attracted to the bait.
The real bait, the one with the hook in it, hasn't been used yet.
I predict that NONE of the ones who have run before will win the nomination...

So who are you looking at getting the nod? Huntsman?
 
Well, a monkey promising free cigarettes to children could beat Obama right now.

While that might be true, none of the named Republican candidates or candidate prospects have a snowball's chance against Obama, so perhaps the Republicans should give serious thought to upgrading their nominee with a monkey promising free cigarettes to children
 
I didn't realize that McCain moonlights as a comedian.

If McCain had respectable judgement, he might actually be President right.... but he doesn't, so he isn't, so why are listening to him?
 
Well you havent really outlined one yet. Just went for the easy ridicule route. No debate, just weak flame material.
Post #25.
This is what i do not agree with Palin on "Tax breaks, war monger, private healthcare, abortion stance, her stance on sex education, same sex marriage, stance of keeping mariguana illegal, stance on global warming. Would you like more? "


I havent flipped out at all,
Kinda seem like you are making a big issue out of this.

I just believe you think your posts are clever snark when they dont do anything but parse meaninglessly and dont really say anything.
Well my first post which was sarcastic was snark. My last couple posts ehh kinda. I just dont agree with Sarah Palin... You really havent said anything you just posted a link.. Just sayin.

Again if you are going to say posts need to be thoughtful, maybe you should get the ball rolling on your own and stop posting drivel.
Well as i said on my second post i just put in as much thought as you did to your post.

Your posts consist of :
Palin /snicker
Look at me Im clever.
No, I was being sarcastic when I didnt have a point.
Good job sense im being sarcastic you do realize this right? Do you hate sarcasm or something?

And you still don't have a point.

Palins a moron. FTW!
 
Energy, insurance reform (no link needed IMO), Iraq, Afghanistan 1 & Afghanistan 2, killing Osama even if he was in a Pakistan

Plenty of others I could dig up

Okay, so Energy you support America moving to unproven, costly "Green Energy". Got it. Insurance Reform, you'll have to provide some context here... Iraq, so you disagreed with Bush, and the DNC, and Al Gore, Clinton's, the UN... Afghanstan I was Bush, fine, II was Obama... and Osama's killing, so basically you disagree with all politicians but you basket that in with Palin. Got it.
 
Okay, so Energy you support America moving to unproven, costly "Green Energy". Got it. Insurance Reform, you'll have to provide some context here... Iraq, so you disagreed with Bush, and the DNC, and Al Gore, Clinton's, the UN... Afghanstan I was Bush, fine, II was Obama... and Osama's killing, so basically you disagree with all politicians but you basket that in with Palin. Got it.

I think Huntsman has a good shot, unless he has some skeletons in his closet we are not aware of. He is a Mormon, but not the "goody two shoes" type. His has more of a presidential image than Romney. Part of Obama's campaign strategy was image, and it worked, especially against the image of a bumbling old man.

Green energy is not all costly or unproven. Most of it is cheap and easy. Just like we did with cars since the 70's, we used MOSTLY EXISTING TECHNOLOGY to make the engines burn cleaner, get better miles per gallon, and even develop more horsepower. Application of existing technology can be done across the board, from how we build our houses to how we live our daily lives. Reducing wasteful habits can make a huge dent in our power "needs". Conservation, aka increasing efficiencies, is so easily and cheaply done that it is stupid to ignore it.
But ignore it, we do...
I sometimes get to enjoy hearing some or our friends complain about their air conditioning bills. Too much house, too many windows facing the wrong directions, too many wasteful energy wasting practices by the kids.....it all adds up.

As for Palin, she probably won't run....she isn't stupid.
 
Palin = cheer leader. She may have positions, but I doubt she can actually back them up outside of the talking points. But this doesn't matter. Its not in Palin's best interest to run. She'd stop making money and ensure the repubs defeat to Obama. She knows this, all the repubs know this.

The only person who had a chance to beat Obama was Daniels.

Daniels was an interesting possibility that in the end proved little more than an attractive distraction. Lots of folks poured into him what they wanted to pour into him and made conclusions based on their own hopes and dreams. I am not sure he would have measured up but we will probably never know.

He reminds me of some very young, hot attractive dancer that you see at a Bada-Bing Tony Soprano type bar. You sit there with yoru third drink and watch her dance and wonder what it would be like to go home to that every night and you fantasize about it as you stuff a Lincoln or two into her sweaty G string. You never wonder if she could cook, or clean, or help raise your kids, or do any of the more mundane tasks necessary in a relationship. Your mind is on one thing and only one things.

I think lots of Republicans looked at Daniels like that.

I do still think Romney can win in November. Of course he first needs to win in the primaries and at the convention and that is his problem. Significant sectors of the GOP do not seem to like him or are suspicious of him and his path to nomination may be difficult.

But I still think he is the most electable of Republican nominees because he can win some Independent votes.
 
Liberals are great at attacking people but very poor when it comes to actually knowing much. They call people names and reticule them because they have a Candidate who has proven at every turn he is not qualified to drive a trash truck, let alone hold office.

Sarah Palin has a very good record in office, beats hell out of Obama's failures.
 
Post #25.
This is what i do not agree with Palin on "Tax breaks, war monger, private healthcare, abortion stance, her stance on sex education, same sex marriage, stance of keeping mariguana illegal, stance on global warming. Would you like more? "



Kinda seem like you are making a big issue out of this.


Well my first post which was sarcastic was snark. My last couple posts ehh kinda. I just dont agree with Sarah Palin... You really havent said anything you just posted a link.. Just sayin.


Well as i said on my second post i just put in as much thought as you did to your post.


Good job sense im being sarcastic you do realize this right? Do you hate sarcasm or something?



Palins a moron. FTW!

I do dislike someone who parses my posts and doesnt say anything substantial in return. Someone who criticizes others without putting any of their views out there other than sarcasm, then criticizes others' posts.

Short version: until the last post you were being asinine and trolling.

The link I provided to on the issues has policy quotes almost every topic and where the person stands on various things. Its just one link but it does have unequivocal information on a person's policies and ideas.

Palin is such a moron :
Sarah Palin plays the media like a violin: Her turn now - latimes.com
 
Daniels was an interesting possibility that in the end proved little more than an attractive distraction. Lots of folks poured into him what they wanted to pour into him and made conclusions based on their own hopes and dreams. I am not sure he would have measured up but we will probably never know.

He reminds me of some very young, hot attractive dancer that you see at a Bada-Bing Tony Soprano type bar. You sit there with yoru third drink and watch her dance and wonder what it would be like to go home to that every night and you fantasize about it as you stuff a Lincoln or two into her sweaty G string. You never wonder if she could cook, or clean, or help raise your kids, or do any of the more mundane tasks necessary in a relationship. Your mind is on one thing and only one things.

I think lots of Republicans looked at Daniels like that.

I do still think Romney can win in November. Of course he first needs to win in the primaries and at the convention and that is his problem. Significant sectors of the GOP do not seem to like him or are suspicious of him and his path to nomination may be difficult.

But I still think he is the most electable of Republican nominees because he can win some Independent votes.

Romney has no hope of winning the nomination. The ESTABLISHMENT/Blueblood Big Gov. GOP'ers can like him all they want, he's not getting the nod.
 
I do dislike someone who parses my posts and doesnt say anything substantial in return.
Ok

Someone who criticizes others without putting any of their views out there other than sarcasm, then criticizes others' posts.
I merely said i put as much effort as you put into your post as i put into mine which was a response. Did you miss that for the 5th time?

Short version: until the last post you were being asinine and trolling.
Ehh somewhat.. But not really.

The link I provided to on the issues has policy quotes almost every topic and where the person stands on various things. Its just one link but it does have unequivocal information on a person's policies and ideas.
And i told you what i disagree with her with. Did you miss this also?

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
Wow.
 
I merely said i put as much effort as you put into your post as i put into mine which was a response. Did you miss that for the 5th time?

Oh it was a response, it wasnt a substantitive one. Which I have said several times. But that kinda seems like your m.o. ;dont give any sort of real response then criticize the other guy. Trolls do that sorta thing.

Do you believe Palin could manipulate the media so easily if she were as stupid as you propose?
 
Oh it was a response, it wasnt a substantitive one. Which I have said several times. But that kinda seems like your m.o. ;dont give any sort of real response then criticize the other guy. Trolls do that sorta thing.

Do you believe Palin could manipulate the media so easily if she were as stupid as you propose?

Do you think Paris Hilton brilliant then? Kim Kardashian? Lindsay Lohan?
 
Different sort of manipulation hun.

In what sense? Because I don't buy it. All four of 'em are playing the media like a stringed instrument.
 
Oh it was a response, it wasnt a substantitive one.
I never said it was i said i was being sarcastic if i was being sarcastic wouldnt you think that its not substantive nor that i wanted the post to seem substantive?

Which I have said several times. But that kinda seems like your m.o. ;dont give any sort of real response then criticize the other guy.
Yep only to posts about Sarah Palin...

Trolls do that sorta thing.
Aite cuz.


Do you believe Palin could manipulate the media so easily if she were as stupid as you propose?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA manipulate the media? What? By making herself look like a complete tool?
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA manipulate the media? What? By making herself look like a complete tool?

Which isnt an answer. Its avoiding an answer to make another trollish response. Because answering yes means she isnt as stupid as you think and no means you look stupid, because its obvious she is manipulating them. Its ok though, you dont have to answer, its more or less rhetorical at this point.

To BdBoop, the others you mentioned play the media by playing the media's game on the media's terms. Palin is changing the rules, its a different set of circumstances. Generally speaking the media has not shown the hate or disdain for them that they have shown for Palin.

Maybe Lohan...but she is like watching a train wreck via live cam.
 
Liberals are great at attacking people but very poor when it comes to actually knowing much. They call people names and reticule them because they have a Candidate who has proven at every turn he is not qualified to drive a trash truck, let alone hold office.

Sarah Palin has a very good record in office, beats hell out of Obama's failures.

... are you talking about the less than 1/2 term governor of a state with the population of a Memphis; a four time drop out of a third and fourth tier colleges; a women without a real original idea; the Bob Roberts candidate? That Sarah Palin?

Thank you for one of the most humorous posts of the week.
 
Which isnt an answer. Its avoiding an answer to make another trollish response. Because answering yes means she isnt as stupid as you think and no means you look stupid, because its obvious she is manipulating them.
How is she "manipulating the media"? By getting on some huge bus, traveling the country, showing up at a biker rally, and eating pizza with Donald trump? That is how she is manipulating the media? If you ask me sounds like she is just promoting maybe a "presidential campaign". Really dont get how she is manipulating the media. And the LA times article makes a poor example on how she is "manipulating the media".

Its ok though, you dont have to answer, its more or less rhetorical at this point.
Funny. Im glad you know she is "manipulating the media" she actually is a "top runner" at this point...

To BdBoop, the others you mentioned play the media by playing the media's game on the media's terms. Palin is changing the rules, its a different set of circumstances. Generally speaking the media has not shown the hate or disdain for them that they have shown for Palin.
Sounds like she is just buying a uber patriotic nationalistic bus and traveling the country and being all grizzly, and mavericky, and folksy to me.

Maybe Lohan...but she is like watching a train wreck via live cam.

Agreed.
 
Okay, so Energy you support America moving to unproven, costly "Green Energy". Got it. Insurance Reform, you'll have to provide some context here... Iraq, so you disagreed with Bush, and the DNC, and Al Gore, Clinton's, the UN... Afghanstan I was Bush, fine, II was Obama... and Osama's killing, so basically you disagree with all politicians but you basket that in with Palin. Got it.

How the hell can you infer any of that from the list I gave when the question was "prove Obama had policies" :doh

Romney has no hope of winning the nomination. The ESTABLISHMENT/Blueblood Big Gov. GOP'ers can like him all they want, he's not getting the nod.

They don't even like him. The establishment was against him last race or do you not pay attention to even your own parties politics?

Which isnt an answer. Its avoiding an answer to make another trollish response. Because answering yes means she isnt as stupid as you think and no means you look stupid, because its obvious she is manipulating them. Its ok though, you dont have to answer, its more or less rhetorical at this point.

To BdBoop, the others you mentioned play the media by playing the media's game on the media's terms. Palin is changing the rules, its a different set of circumstances. Generally speaking the media has not shown the hate or disdain for them that they have shown for Palin.

Maybe Lohan...but she is like watching a train wreck via live cam.

Palin isn't retarded, she just doesn't have very much substance.
 
How the hell can you infer any of that from the list I gave when the question was "prove Obama had policies" :doh

They don't even like him. The establishment was against him last race or do you not pay attention to even your own parties politics?

Palin isn't retarded, she just doesn't have very much substance.

Romney has proved he will play along to get along. So hes getting more support.

It can be argued that Palin has more substance via experience and speeches and alternate media than Obama had when he first ran as a candidate.
 
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