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    McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions

    For anybody thinking Republicans are willing to seriously negotiate.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_868569.html

    WASHINGTON -- Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on Sunday that the Medicare reform plan authored by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan would be "on the table" with respect to negotiations over raising the debt ceiling.

    "We are going to discuss what ought to be done," McConnell said during an appearance on Meet The Press. "I can assure you that to get my vote to raise the debt ceiling, for whatever that is worth… Medicare will be a part of it."

    Using the Ryan plan as an option for debt ceiling negotiations is a new marker for GOP leaders, who have long insisted legislation should include strict spending caps. McConnell's remarks suggest not only that GOP leadership is looking for cover for the party's Medicare voucher proposal -- forcing Democrats to either support elements of the plan or risk default -- but also that the two parties may be moving further apart as that deadline nears.


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    There should be no negotiation needed over spending cuts. Nothing is more desperately necessary. Your preemptive whining indicates you probably don't agree.

    I think the Democrats should decide amongst themselves how much to cut defense, and Republicans should decide amongst themselves how much to cut everything else.
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    Re: McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions

    fantastic. the more of the Ryan Plan that we can get attached to this, the better.

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    Re: McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    There should be no negotiation needed over spending cuts. Nothing is more desperately necessary. Your preemptive whining indicates you probably don't agree.

    I think the Democrats should decide amongst themselves how much to cut defense, and Republicans should decide amongst themselves how much to cut everything else.
    McConnell is refering to the Ryan budget. The budget that effectively ends Medicare. There is no way in hell Dems will go along with that. Therefore; there will be no deal if McConnel insists on those terms. Get back to me when you have a clue.


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    Re: McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions

    This is the GOPs last gasp at trying to get ryans plan passed with false bravado after the NY election spanking. The have to show the far right nutters in the party that are frothing at the mouth that they are doing all they can to Pelosi like ram their agenda down everyones throat...we'll see how it all turns out in the end, no one knows yet

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    Re: McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions

    Later in August, as the entire world succumbs to economic depression with millions more Americans unemployed, homeless, without hope and trillions of dollars of capital lost forever, we'll look back at McConnell's words and recognize our error that we assumed the conservative congressional leadership were rational people — they aren't; they would rather bring about the end of the world as we know it, than allow it to continue to exist successfully contrary to their ideology.
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    Re: McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions

    LOL, that's awesome. I'm going to cut/paste that and put it next to the crazy pastor who claimed the world was going to end and ask people to tell the difference

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    Re: McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    McConnell is refering to the Ryan budget. The budget that effectively ends Medicare. There is no way in hell Dems will go along with that. Therefore; there will be no deal if McConnel insists on those terms. Get back to me when you have a clue.
    McConnel has said that everything is on the table with the exception of tax hikes on a recovering economy. DOD spending, entitlement reform... it's all open for discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    McConnell is refering to the Ryan budget. The budget that effectively ends Medicare. There is no way in hell Dems will go along with that.
    But I thought you said Republicans were the ones unwilling to negotiate...

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    Re: McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    But I thought you said Republicans were the ones unwilling to negotiate...
    They both are unwilling to negotiate when it benefits them or they think it does. There is no difference between the way the two parties operate, its all about what side your on. The GOP is doing the same thing right now that the democrats did with a pelosi house....of course the conservatives dont see that or admit it.

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