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Foreign Car-Bashing DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Owns ... Foreign Car

This here is a really important thing. Yep.
 
This here is a really important thing. Yep.

As important as Al-Gore driving an SUV or flying in a jet rather than on the back of a panther from a jungle he saved :lol:
 
Last I looked it was the auto-makers of our country that ****ed their own selves over. They began by exporting production on a small scale and that continued to incraese all for the sake of dodging taxes, paying lower wages - and so on. . . .they chose that, not our legislators.

*shrug*

And there isn't a single company these days that's 100% 'made in the USA' - even the most 'American' car is comprised of parts that are crafted abroad and imported.
 
Last I looked it was the auto-makers of our country that ****ed their own selves over. They began by exporting production on a small scale and that continued to incraese all for the sake of dodging taxes, paying lower wages - and so on. . . .they chose that, not our legislators.

*shrug*

And there isn't a single company these days that's 100% 'made in the USA' - even the most 'American' car is comprised of parts that are crafted abroad and imported.

Mostly mexico :p
 
This here is a really important thing. Yep.

Why does it have to be important? There are many trivial topics brought up on this website. Doesn't mean they don't deserve mention.

As for this thread, I have no problem with the woman driving a Nissan. I drive one myself. However, there is no doubt some hypocrisy taking place.
 
Last I looked it was the auto-makers of our country that ****ed their own selves over. They began by exporting production on a small scale and that continued to incraese all for the sake of dodging taxes, paying lower wages - and so on. . . .they chose that, not our legislators.

*shrug*

And there isn't a single company these days that's 100% 'made in the USA' - even the most 'American' car is comprised of parts that are crafted abroad and imported.

I don't think the issue is her owning the Nissan. I think the issue is that she said this: “If it were up to the candidates for president on the Republican side, we would be driving foreign cars..." and yet she drives a foreign car.
 
I don't think the issue is her owning the Nissan. I think the issue is that she said this: “If it were up to the candidates for president on the Republican side, we would be driving foreign cars..." and yet she drives a foreign car.

How she said this:

" [Republican lawmakers]. . . they would have let the auto industry in America go down the tubes . . ."

She seems like she's trying to blame republicans for the faults of the auto-industry individuals and companies for this current issue that they actually created for their own selves.

the auto-industry CREATED their own problem - Wasserman seems completely oblivious to this and is instead harping on the RESONSE of said government members. Their actions did not create the problem - nor did their actions fix or improve anything.
 
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I don't think the issue is her owning the Nissan. I think the issue is that she said this: “If it were up to the candidates for president on the Republican side, we would be driving foreign cars..." and yet she drives a foreign car.

By foreign do you mean made in Tennessee and Mississippi? Nissan plants in both states.

Further what she was saying is that you would not have a choice but to drive a foreign car since the US automakers would be out of business. Debatable, and in some ways inaccurate, but entirely unrelated to what type of car some one in her family chooses to drive.
 
How she said this:



She seems like she's trying to blame republicans for the faults of the auto-industry individuals and companies for this current issue that they actually created for their own selves.

the auto-industry CREATED their own problem - Wasserman seems completely oblivious to this and is instead harping on the RESONSE of said government members. Their actions did not create the problem - nor did their actions fix or improve anything.

Well...no. She was talking about what would have been the result of not bailing out the auto industry, not what caused it to have financial problems. Further, not all of the problems with the auto industry where caused by the auto makers. Sales went down dramatically for all automakers and was driven(get it?) by the economy collapsing. Many of the problems in surviving where the fault of the auto industry, no one denies this.
 
Well...no. She was talking about what would have been the result of not bailing out the auto industry, not what caused it to have financial problems. Further, not all of the problems with the auto industry where caused by the auto makers. Sales went down dramatically for all automakers and was driven(get it?) by the economy collapsing. Many of the problems in surviving where the fault of the auto industry, no one denies this.

Well - between several articles I still can't piece together what she actually did / didn't say exactly - everyone's offering partial quotes without full context - I'm flying blind.

Is there a longer article or video somewhere?
 
Well - between several articles I still can't piece together what she actually did / didn't say exactly - everyone's offering partial quotes without full context - I'm flying blind.

Is there a longer article or video somewhere?

The quote you gave was a direct reference to republicans opposing a bailout of GM and Chrysler.
 
By foreign do you mean made in Tennessee and Mississippi? Nissan plants in both states.

Further what she was saying is that you would not have a choice but to drive a foreign car since the US automakers would be out of business. Debatable, and in some ways inaccurate, but entirely unrelated to what type of car some one in her family chooses to drive.

I meant foreign in the same way she meant foreign: Nissans are made by a Japanese company. I realize they do some manufacturing in the US, but they are not considered a US company. I also realize what she said was concerning the American auto industry, but she was clearly painting Republican presidential candidates in a bad light when she said, "If it were up to the candidates for president on the Republican side, we would be driving foreign cars..."
 
I meant foreign in the same way she meant foreign: Nissans are made by a Japanese company. I realize they do some manufacturing in the US, but they are not considered a US company. I also realize what she said was concerning the American auto industry, but she was clearly painting Republican presidential candidates in a bad light when she said, "If it were up to the candidates for president on the Republican side, we would be driving foreign cars..."

Actually it is a multinational corporation with branches and manufacturing in the US.

And again you intentionally cut the quote short so you do not have your argument destroyed. "...they would have let the auto industry in America go down the tubes" You tell me, what does that part of the quote mean?
 
Actually it is a multinational corporation with branches and manufacturing in the US.

And again you intentionally cut the quote short so you do not have your argument destroyed. "...they would have let the auto industry in America go down the tubes" You tell me, what does that part of the quote mean?

Well - to me it seems as if she really feels that the government swooped in and saved the day.

Nevermind that some companies folded completely even with the bailout.

And what really saved other companies isn't that they *were bailed out* it was that they completely evaluated their problems and corrected their issues - some (like Chevrolet) completely restructured their corporate ladder following the 'pancake theory.'

The truth of the matter is that the companies created their problem and they alone can fix it - government anything is a weeping undersized bandaid and shouldn't be given much credit.
 
Well - to me it seems as if she really feels that the government swooped in and saved the day.

Nevermind that some companies folded completely even with the bailout.

And what really saved other companies isn't that they *were bailed out* it was that they completely evaluated their problems and corrected their issues - some (like Chevrolet) completely restructured their corporate ladder following the 'pancake theory.'

The truth of the matter is that the companies created their problem and they alone can fix it - government anything is a weeping undersized bandaid and shouldn't be given much credit.

The government to an extent did save the day. The loans allowed them to get to a point where they could reorganize.

The companies did not create all their problems. Maybe you forgot that little financial collapse we had a couple years ago...

The automakers deserve some blame without question, but they do not deserve all the blame. The real estate bubble collapsing was not the automakers fault, nor where the issues in the financial systems. When people are not buying nearly as many cars, it hurts even the best run auto company.
 
The government to an extent did save the day. The loans allowed them to get to a point where they could reorganize.

The companies did not create all their problems. Maybe you forgot that little financial collapse we had a couple years ago...

The automakers deserve some blame without question, but they do not deserve all the blame. The real estate bubble collapsing was not the automakers fault, nor where the issues in the financial systems. When people are not buying nearly as many cars, it hurts even the best run auto company.

And that's just part of business: sometimes things DON'T go very well - and the more costly your product is or the more unnecessary your product is the more you're subject to suffer due to market fluctuations.

That's business and it's true for EVERY leg of business - good businessmen can handle issues and be proactive to avoid issues and bad businessmen can't.

The auto industry built itself on nothing - why were they then unable to support theirselves through this rough time? I see that as bad-business ethics and practices.
 
The point is, she's pandering.

Yes, there are Nissan plants in the US. There are GM plants in Europe. These are all multi-national companies. Heck, one of the best cars I ever owned was a 1998 Chevy Metro. This was a Japanese-built Suzuki that had a bowtie slapped on it when it got here. Is that a Japanese car or an American car? After the deal to sell off the government's share in Chrysler is done, Fiat will hold a majority stake (How long ago was it Daimler Chrysler? Owned by Mercecdes Benz?).

What is a Japanese car anymore? Is a Nissan built in America "Japanese?" Does that make the 2012 Dodge Charger "Italian?"
 
By foreign do you mean made in Tennessee and Mississippi? Nissan plants in both states.

Further what she was saying is that you would not have a choice but to drive a foreign car since the US automakers would be out of business. Debatable, and in some ways inaccurate, but entirely unrelated to what type of car some one in her family chooses to drive.

I was going to bring up this point, but you beat me to it. Most of the Japanese auto-makers produce their U.S. market cars within the United States, made by U.S. auto workers. I frankly don't care what the company name is as rich people in Japan are pretty much the same as rich people in the United States... but if U.S. workers are making the car, that is a U.S.-made car.

I live in Taiwan and drive a Toyota, but it is a Taiwan-made car. So, is it a Japanese car, or a Taiwanese car? I vote Taiwanese car...
 
I was going to bring up this point, but you beat me to it. Most of the Japanese auto-makers produce their U.S. market cars within the United States, made by U.S. auto workers. I frankly don't care what the company name is as rich people in Japan are pretty much the same as rich people in the United States... but if U.S. workers are making the car, that is a U.S.-made car.

I live in Taiwan and drive a Toyota, but it is a Taiwan-made car. So, is it a Japanese car, or a Taiwanese car? I vote Taiwanese car...

When did Japan start outsourcing their workforce to the US?
 
I was going to bring up this point, but you beat me to it. Most of the Japanese auto-makers produce their U.S. market cars within the United States, made by U.S. auto workers. I frankly don't care what the company name is as rich people in Japan are pretty much the same as rich people in the United States... but if U.S. workers are making the car, that is a U.S.-made car.

I live in Taiwan and drive a Toyota, but it is a Taiwan-made car. So, is it a Japanese car, or a Taiwanese car? I vote Taiwanese car...

I made parts for Toyota. Not only am I painfully aware that Toyota makes the cars they sell in the US, and more of them in the US than the big 3, but I am also aware that Toyota has much higher standards of quality than the big 3.
 
When did Japan start outsourcing their workforce to the US?

The first factories were built in the late 80s. Honda, Toyota, and Nissan have significant operations within the US. Smyrna Tenn is home to Nissans most significant US operations. I believe Honda manufacturs almost as many cars in the US as it does in Japan. If you include Can production in that number, it makes more in North America then Japan
 
The first factories were built in the late 80s. Honda, Toyota, and Nissan have significant operations within the US. Smyrna Tenn is home to Nissans most significant US operations. I believe Honda manufacturs almost as many cars in the US as it does in Japan. If you include Can production in that number, it makes more in North America then Japan

And not to mention it is highly ironic that John McCain did not get much stick from the right when he said that Apple products were made in the US... At least chances are that her Nissan is in part or whole made in the US by US workers where as peoples Ipad/IPhone is made in China 100%. Not even the OS is loaded on in the US...
 
And not to mention it is highly ironic that John McCain did not get much stick from the right when he said that Apple products were made in the US... At least chances are that her Nissan is in part or whole made in the US by US workers where as peoples Ipad/IPhone is made in China 100%. Not even the OS is loaded on in the US...

The Ipad/Iphone is 100% assembled in China, not all the parts are. The screen I believe is made in Korea, some of the chipsets in Japan etc.
 
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