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    re: Foreign Car-Bashing DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Owns ... Foreign Car

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    How she said this:



    She seems like she's trying to blame republicans for the faults of the auto-industry individuals and companies for this current issue that they actually created for their own selves.

    the auto-industry CREATED their own problem - Wasserman seems completely oblivious to this and is instead harping on the RESONSE of said government members. Their actions did not create the problem - nor did their actions fix or improve anything.
    Well...no. She was talking about what would have been the result of not bailing out the auto industry, not what caused it to have financial problems. Further, not all of the problems with the auto industry where caused by the auto makers. Sales went down dramatically for all automakers and was driven(get it?) by the economy collapsing. Many of the problems in surviving where the fault of the auto industry, no one denies this.
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    re: Foreign Car-Bashing DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Owns ... Foreign Car

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well...no. She was talking about what would have been the result of not bailing out the auto industry, not what caused it to have financial problems. Further, not all of the problems with the auto industry where caused by the auto makers. Sales went down dramatically for all automakers and was driven(get it?) by the economy collapsing. Many of the problems in surviving where the fault of the auto industry, no one denies this.
    Well - between several articles I still can't piece together what she actually did / didn't say exactly - everyone's offering partial quotes without full context - I'm flying blind.

    Is there a longer article or video somewhere?
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    re: Foreign Car-Bashing DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Owns ... Foreign Car

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - between several articles I still can't piece together what she actually did / didn't say exactly - everyone's offering partial quotes without full context - I'm flying blind.

    Is there a longer article or video somewhere?
    The quote you gave was a direct reference to republicans opposing a bailout of GM and Chrysler.
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    re: Foreign Car-Bashing DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Owns ... Foreign Car

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    By foreign do you mean made in Tennessee and Mississippi? Nissan plants in both states.

    Further what she was saying is that you would not have a choice but to drive a foreign car since the US automakers would be out of business. Debatable, and in some ways inaccurate, but entirely unrelated to what type of car some one in her family chooses to drive.
    I meant foreign in the same way she meant foreign: Nissans are made by a Japanese company. I realize they do some manufacturing in the US, but they are not considered a US company. I also realize what she said was concerning the American auto industry, but she was clearly painting Republican presidential candidates in a bad light when she said, "If it were up to the candidates for president on the Republican side, we would be driving foreign cars..."
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    re: Foreign Car-Bashing DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Owns ... Foreign Car

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    I meant foreign in the same way she meant foreign: Nissans are made by a Japanese company. I realize they do some manufacturing in the US, but they are not considered a US company. I also realize what she said was concerning the American auto industry, but she was clearly painting Republican presidential candidates in a bad light when she said, "If it were up to the candidates for president on the Republican side, we would be driving foreign cars..."
    Actually it is a multinational corporation with branches and manufacturing in the US.

    And again you intentionally cut the quote short so you do not have your argument destroyed. "...they would have let the auto industry in America go down the tubes" You tell me, what does that part of the quote mean?
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    re: Foreign Car-Bashing DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Owns ... Foreign Car

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually it is a multinational corporation with branches and manufacturing in the US.

    And again you intentionally cut the quote short so you do not have your argument destroyed. "...they would have let the auto industry in America go down the tubes" You tell me, what does that part of the quote mean?
    Well - to me it seems as if she really feels that the government swooped in and saved the day.

    Nevermind that some companies folded completely even with the bailout.

    And what really saved other companies isn't that they *were bailed out* it was that they completely evaluated their problems and corrected their issues - some (like Chevrolet) completely restructured their corporate ladder following the 'pancake theory.'

    The truth of the matter is that the companies created their problem and they alone can fix it - government anything is a weeping undersized bandaid and shouldn't be given much credit.
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    re: Foreign Car-Bashing DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Owns ... Foreign Car

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - to me it seems as if she really feels that the government swooped in and saved the day.

    Nevermind that some companies folded completely even with the bailout.

    And what really saved other companies isn't that they *were bailed out* it was that they completely evaluated their problems and corrected their issues - some (like Chevrolet) completely restructured their corporate ladder following the 'pancake theory.'

    The truth of the matter is that the companies created their problem and they alone can fix it - government anything is a weeping undersized bandaid and shouldn't be given much credit.
    The government to an extent did save the day. The loans allowed them to get to a point where they could reorganize.

    The companies did not create all their problems. Maybe you forgot that little financial collapse we had a couple years ago...

    The automakers deserve some blame without question, but they do not deserve all the blame. The real estate bubble collapsing was not the automakers fault, nor where the issues in the financial systems. When people are not buying nearly as many cars, it hurts even the best run auto company.
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    re: Foreign Car-Bashing DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Owns ... Foreign Car

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The government to an extent did save the day. The loans allowed them to get to a point where they could reorganize.

    The companies did not create all their problems. Maybe you forgot that little financial collapse we had a couple years ago...

    The automakers deserve some blame without question, but they do not deserve all the blame. The real estate bubble collapsing was not the automakers fault, nor where the issues in the financial systems. When people are not buying nearly as many cars, it hurts even the best run auto company.
    And that's just part of business: sometimes things DON'T go very well - and the more costly your product is or the more unnecessary your product is the more you're subject to suffer due to market fluctuations.

    That's business and it's true for EVERY leg of business - good businessmen can handle issues and be proactive to avoid issues and bad businessmen can't.

    The auto industry built itself on nothing - why were they then unable to support theirselves through this rough time? I see that as bad-business ethics and practices.
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    re: Foreign Car-Bashing DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Owns ... Foreign Car

    The point is, she's pandering.

    Yes, there are Nissan plants in the US. There are GM plants in Europe. These are all multi-national companies. Heck, one of the best cars I ever owned was a 1998 Chevy Metro. This was a Japanese-built Suzuki that had a bowtie slapped on it when it got here. Is that a Japanese car or an American car? After the deal to sell off the government's share in Chrysler is done, Fiat will hold a majority stake (How long ago was it Daimler Chrysler? Owned by Mercecdes Benz?).

    What is a Japanese car anymore? Is a Nissan built in America "Japanese?" Does that make the 2012 Dodge Charger "Italian?"

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    re: Foreign Car-Bashing DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Owns ... Foreign Car

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    By foreign do you mean made in Tennessee and Mississippi? Nissan plants in both states.

    Further what she was saying is that you would not have a choice but to drive a foreign car since the US automakers would be out of business. Debatable, and in some ways inaccurate, but entirely unrelated to what type of car some one in her family chooses to drive.
    I was going to bring up this point, but you beat me to it. Most of the Japanese auto-makers produce their U.S. market cars within the United States, made by U.S. auto workers. I frankly don't care what the company name is as rich people in Japan are pretty much the same as rich people in the United States... but if U.S. workers are making the car, that is a U.S.-made car.

    I live in Taiwan and drive a Toyota, but it is a Taiwan-made car. So, is it a Japanese car, or a Taiwanese car? I vote Taiwanese car...
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