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    Re: TSA Could Ban Flights From Texas If State Passes Anti-Patdown Law

    LMAO!

    I hope they do but they dont have too, all they have to do is keep doing what they are doing, if a person cant participate in the rules they simply dont get to fly, its always been their own choice.
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    Re: TSA Could Ban Flights From Texas If State Passes Anti-Patdown Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I call bull****. There is no way the TSA is going to cancel every flight originating from Texas. To even issue this kind of empty threat is beyond retarded. Hopefully Texas passes their law and tells the TSA to go **** themselves.
    I hope they do... that way we can contain Texans in Texas!
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    Re: TSA Could Ban Flights From Texas If State Passes Anti-Patdown Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is not what he said. Further, the place to work on changing TSA regulations is not by making a law to start a pissing match. Take it to court.
    Why? What makes the courts the sole decision-maker here? As long as the Texas law doesn't violate the Constitution (and I see no reason why it would), they are free to make their own laws. Yes, the federal courts should also be involved, and rule the TSA security procedures unconstitutional...but there's no reason that states can't or shouldn't act on their own until that happens.

    On the contrary, "making a law to start a pissing match" should be a very effective way to get these silly security procedures reversed. The TSA claims that they won't allow any flights without these invasive security procedures. Let's let Texas call their bluff and see if the TSA is so dedicated to touching people's junk that they're really willing to ground every single flight in Texas.
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    Re: TSA Could Ban Flights From Texas If State Passes Anti-Patdown Law

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    wow thats one of the dumbest videos ive seen on here in a while, thats was damn funny, LMAO talk about being dramatic LOL
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    Re: TSA Could Ban Flights From Texas If State Passes Anti-Patdown Law

    Personally.. I think Texas's attempt at solving the problem was rather stupid.. Banning pat downs isn't going to solve anything except make more problems.. What really needs to happen is the airlines to come together and demand change for their customers.. This isn't a state problem.. This a customer service business issue..

    I think TSA needs some serious regulations.. But let's also no forget why they there.. On a nice summer day almost 10 years ago exactly.. 4 planes crashed in a single day.. 2 in the WTC, one into the Pentagon, and the last into a field.. A lot of people died that day.. Since then we have had the shoe bomber and a few other attempts at blowing up planes..

    So while we may not like them, and here lots of stories of them frisking children or young women or people with medical conditions.. They are there for a reason.. I would rather myself or someone else gets a pat down, than to find out there is a would be suicide bomber on board.. What about the rest of you?? Pat down or share a plane with a terrorist??

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    Re: TSA Could Ban Flights From Texas If State Passes Anti-Patdown Law

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    So while we may not like them, and here lots of stories of them frisking children or young women or people with medical conditions.. They are there for a reason.. I would rather myself or someone else gets a pat down, than to find out there is a would be suicide bomber on board.. What about the rest of you?? Pat down or share a plane with a terrorist??
    I'd rather acknowledge that the TSA security theater is an incredibly poor value proposition to save lives (compared to, say, investments in heart disease or cancer research), accept the risk of the occasional bomb on a plane, and trust the passengers to prevent their plane from being hijacked.
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    Re: TSA Could Ban Flights From Texas If State Passes Anti-Patdown Law

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    Personally.. I think Texas's attempt at solving the problem was rather stupid.. Banning pat downs isn't going to solve anything except make more problems.. What really needs to happen is the airlines to come together and demand change for their customers.. This isn't a state problem.. This a customer service business issue..

    I think TSA needs some serious regulations.. But let's also no forget why they there.. On a nice summer day almost 10 years ago exactly.. 4 planes crashed in a single day.. 2 in the WTC, one into the Pentagon, and the last into a field.. A lot of people died that day.. Since then we have had the shoe bomber and a few other attempts at blowing up planes..

    So while we may not like them, and here lots of stories of them frisking children or young women or people with medical conditions.. They are there for a reason.. I would rather myself or someone else gets a pat down, than to find out there is a would be suicide bomber on board.. What about the rest of you?? Pat down or share a plane with a terrorist??
    thats what people just dont get, its fine not to like it, I can Im not a fan but when people are just being dramatic crybabies about it and just saying nonsense like its porno, sexual assult, rape and violates the constitution etc etc is all counterproductive and laughable LOL
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    Re: TSA Could Ban Flights From Texas If State Passes Anti-Patdown Law

    Yes, the TSA could and will absolutely stop all flights out of Texas if this goes into effect. They could even shutdown all air carrier operations within Texas because the national airspace system is under the control of the FAA.

    It's not a bluff. This is the federal government. They have certain mandates and they do not see things in shades of grey. I am as much against the TSA grope procedure as anyone, but Texas simply doesn't have the authority to do this.
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    Re: TSA Could Ban Flights From Texas If State Passes Anti-Patdown Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, the TSA could and will absolutely stop all flights out of Texas if this goes into effect. They could even shutdown all air carrier operations within Texas because the national airspace system is under the control of the FAA.

    It's not a bluff. This is the federal government. They have certain mandates and they do not see things in shades of grey.
    The people who are actually calling the shots are smart enough to realize that grounding every flight from Texas would be devastating to the economy, to transportation, and to people's schedules. And if they aren't, then their superiors will replace them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce
    I am as much against the TSA grope procedure as anyone, but Texas simply doesn't have the authority to do this.
    Why not? There is no federal law that mandates junk-touching at the airports, that's just a TSA regulation which can be reversed at any time. Furthermore, federal agents do not have immunity from state laws. And in any case, the Texas law does not contradict the TSA regulation. The Texas law bans invasive searches without probable cause, and the TSA regulation mandates it and/or requires the TSA to ground the flight if they can't provide security. So there is a legal way out that complies with both laws: Ground every flight in Texas.

    Let's see if the TSA has the balls to pull that trigger, and then explain to the American people that it was necessary because Texas wouldn't let them invasively probe people without probable cause. We'll just see how long the American people tolerate this, and which side comes out on top in public opinion.
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