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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This will go a long way to curbing illegal immigration, but it won't do it by itself. There still needs to be border securement.
    And also the removal of anchor babies and public services. If a illegal immigrant had a child but is refused employment they can receive government assistance on the child. I feel only going part way by making jobs harder to obtain is only going to compound the problem.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Not hiring illegals is just part of the problem. AZ uses E-verify, and everything else the FEDS will allow us, and even that is not fool proof. The illegals have such a huge support network in side the USA they have false, CLEAN and usable SS# that can pass E-verify. Boots on the ground is what we need. We are now going to build our own fence, and even with that we still need boots on the ground. As it is we are losing this battle, and the Feds are lying when they say otherwise. Want to see the fence??
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Good. If illegals could not get work here in the first place, illegal immigration would not be the immense social and economic drain that it has become.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Obama is not happy with this ruling because it sets a precedent for state rights on enforcement of federal immigration law.

    This is huge because it pulls the legs out from under the pro-terrorist groups who think we should have open borders so anyone can get into the USA without identification.

    The sad thing is you want to give potential terrorists the right to drive, get a job, and do whatever they need to do once they get here illegally.
    WTF? Where did I say anything like that.

    I ****ing said I'm in favor of the law.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    WTF? Where did I say anything like that.
    you didn't
    I ****ing said I'm in favor of the law.
    like me, and many others
    but unlike the national chamber of commerce. being expected to hire employees who are not illegals pissed off much of the business sector
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    This new law (which I am for) may experience problems with clogging the AZ court system. The accused employers will have photocopies of ID cards and SS cards from the illegals that they hire. If the illegals all used the same SS card, the employer may lose the case, but if they have various SS card numbers in their files, they may receive a dismissal. Either way, every employer's attorney is going to fight the allegations. Count on it.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    You don't know how Obama reacted to this, because he didn't sue Arizona over this law. He sued over a different law that does overreach.

    This law is fine.

    NOTE: The federal law bans "criminal or civil sanctions (other than through licensing and similar laws) upon those who employ … authorized aliens."

    In other words, the Arizona law takes away a license. It doesn't impose criminal or civil penalties (the latter half of that assertion is questionable, but is now law).

    I can see why the Chamber is against this though. And I'm a little surprised that some "small-government" types celebrate this the way they do. This essentially says that entrepreneurship is a privilege to be granted and taken away by the state (and I agree it is). But you have to admit it's a huge government intrusion into business.

    SB1070 is solely about government intrusion into individual liberty (i.e. - a cop can suspect anyone who looks "foreign" and request proof of citizenship, while this law requires proof of violation of law).
    Seems to me that it solves a states' rights issue, which is supported by conservatives.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    and all States need to pass similar laws. If not the illegal aliens will just go to another state.
    It's already illegal to hire an illegal alien.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have been ranting about this for years. They only way to curb illegal immigration is to take away their ability to make a living here. And you do that by fining or jailing employers who hire them. This has been a long time coming, but it is now here. The downside is that this is only in Arizona, which means that illegals there will come to Texas, or go to New Mexico or other states. Punishing employers who break the law needs to be done nationally.
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