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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Yeah but it paves the way for other states to punish employers who willingly employ illegal’s and it is a step forward for state’s rights to enforce immigration laws.
    This is good news. If the federal government is not going to perform their role, and protect our borders, states have to step up and do it themselves.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I suppose we will now see a lot of Conservatives screaming bloody murder at states blatantly engaging in unconstitutional union busting.
    I think that the union issue is slightly more complex. The role of unions in maintaining government employees at high costs to the local, state, county, and federal agencies, is not necessarily supported by the constitution. I'm not sure our founding fathers would have been in favor of the large governments we presently find ourselves saddled with, where the employees of the government agencies have the power to negotiate salaries that are in excess of the prevailing local wages, or hold the government hostage via a strike. I support unions, generally, but I've seen government employee unions really be detrimental to the public well-being, particularly federal employee unions, teacher unions, and to be brutally honest, police unions can be some of the worst.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    No, although I thought the employer rules were in the same bill.
    Two different bill, the Employer Sanction bill was passed 2 years (I think) before SB1070.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    What the hell does Union thuggery have to do with the subject at hand.

    See we can change the focus of the argument too.

    I have studied the Constitution and I don't for the life of me remember seeing a word about Unions in it.
    Constitutionally, people have the right to association, and to set a value on their services, without government interference. This not only applies to the owners of the companies, but to the workers as well, whose sweat from their brows also has a value. But this is another subject that we can debate in another thread. Sorry if I derailed this thread a bit. Back to the subject at hand.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    We are a Nation of Laws if you don't like them change them. In the mean time don't bitch about them.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    We are a Nation of Laws if you don't like them change them. In the mean time don't bitch about them.
    bitching about them is an effective way of getting them changed
    your post reminds me of the 'love it or leave it' position of the reich wing during the vietnam war
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have been ranting about this for years. They only way to curb illegal immigration is to take away their ability to make a living here. And you do that by fining or jailing employers who hire them. This has been a long time coming, but it is now here. The downside is that this is only in Arizona, which means that illegals there will come to Texas, or go to New Mexico or other states. Punishing employers who break the law needs to be done nationally.
    This will go a long way to curbing illegal immigration, but it won't do it by itself. There still needs to be border securement.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I suppose we will now see a lot of Conservatives screaming bloody murder at states blatantly engaging in unconstitutional union busting.
    I would just be happy to see unions start paying taxes.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This will go a long way to curbing illegal immigration, but it won't do it by itself. There still needs to be border securement.
    I agree. Not every person here illegally is here for jobs. Some are here to pop out anchor babies,Some are here to milk the system and some are here to do crimes other than illegal immigration.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This will go a long way to curbing illegal immigration, but it won't do it by itself. There still needs to be border securement.
    and all States need to pass similar laws. If not the illegal aliens will just go to another state.
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