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    Re: Senate moves Patriot Act toward extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    On the one hand, as you will find in the article, it risks infringing free speech and guarantees against unreasonable searches and seizures.

    On the other it had been used to catch a few bad guys.

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    It should be corrected to "On the other it had been used to catch an innocent person." That's why the Patriot Act was delayed again and again. Sometimes three months, for most times one year. Because in their plan, the victim should have been demolished in their three months plot. I am the person the Patriot Act targets.

    662. Intensified persecution timed with Patriot Act (3/24/2011)

    “Fearing the worst: Plant evacuated; 140,000 ordered to stay indoors”

    Japanese officials advised residents up to 19 miles away from the broken nuclear plant to stay indoors to minimize exposure. This news tell you well why the Feds created big snow storm in London, in San Francisco and New York when I alleged they tried to activate a nuclear attack, (or dirty bomb attack) on these cities. They knew what would happen. To minimize the cost, they let snow storm to keep residents home and keep the tourists away from the killing field.

    In “654. A 90 days' project (11/30/2010)” kathaksung wrote,

    “Anyhow, a new 90 days project is set up immediately. Here is a strange news.


    "Israel's Netanyahu unveils U.S. plan for new talks

    By Allyn Fisher-Ilan Allyn Fisher-ilan ¨C Sat Nov 13,

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101113/ts_nm/us_palestinians_israel_talks"

    The US has given Israel a written guarantee that it won't pressure the Jewish state for additional settlement freezes if it accepts a limited 90 day construction moratorium to revive Mideast peace talks.”

    The 90 days period should be from mid-November to mid- February. Feds determined to extinct kathaksung within 90 days. A “nuclear terror attack” and “war on Iran” are the cases just used to distract the attention on the framed case. In Feds’ mind, a witness of their crime is more important than any interest created by the war. Then why did they choose the February as their dead line?

    Feb. 28 was the exterminate date of the Patriot Act. With virtually zero debate - or media attention, law makers extend that Act for another three months.
    Obama signs temporary extension of Patriot Act
    By The Associated Press
    2/25/2011


    President Barack Obama has signed a three-month extension of key surveillance provisions of the Patriot Act.

    Lawmakers will soon start debating a multiple-year extension of the provisions, which have drawn fire from defenders of privacy rights.
    Obama signs temporary extension of Patriot Act
    I always view the Patriot Act was created particularly against me. (see “231. Lone wolf (5/29)”, “ 334. Patriot Act meeting on 7/21 (8/17/05)” and “545. Warrantless wiretapping law and my case (3/19/08)”)

    The Feb 26 plot, (marked with two unusual snow storms in New York and San Francisco) was a last ditch effort for Feds for the extinguished 2010 Patriot Act. A new plot is quickly set up for the extended Patriot Act (three months). I expect to see big operation in coming April and May. It will be big one. They made the 3/11 Japan earthquake the biggest ever in Japan’s history. If in coming month you saw big earthquake or other natural disaster, terror attack in US and Europe, (especially in Britain and France, because I think the rulers there will allow the “terror attack” to take place on their people in exchange for the oil interest of Libya), war on Iran and then the “Patriot Act” extinguished in May without further extension, then you know the Feds have eliminated kathaksung.

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    Re: Senate moves Patriot Act toward extension

    Would you be arrested under a law you never heard of?

    There’s a Secret Patriot Act, Senator Says

    By Spencer Ackerman

    May 25, 2011 "Wired" -- You may think you understand how the Patriot Act allows the government to spy on its citizens. Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) says it’s worse than you’ve heard.

    *There’s a Secret Patriot Act, Senator Says* :***** Information Clearing House: ICH

    We Can Be Arrested And Tried For Breaking Laws We Don't Know Exist
    By Tom Burnett
    5-26-11

    "You are under arrest."

    "For what?"

    "It's a secret. You have already been tried and convicted."

    "By who?!?!?"

    "It's a secret. You are going to be executed at midnight."

    "EXECUTED?!?!?!?"

    "Yeah. I'll bet you wish you didn't do whatever it is you did."

    "Wait! Don't YOU know?"

    "No one knows. It's a secret law."

    SEN. WYDEN DECRIES "SECRET LAW" ON PATRIOT ACT

    An amendment offered on May 24 by Sen. Ron Wyden would have challenged the Administration's reliance on what he called "secret law" and required the Attorney General to explain the legal basis for its intelligence collection activities under the USA PATRIOT Act. But that and other proposed amendments to the PATRIOT Act have been blocked in the Senate.

    "The public will be surprised... when they learn about some of the interpretations of the PATRIOT Act," Sen. Wyden said, based on his access to classified correspondence between the Justice Department and the Senate Intelligence Committee.

    Sen. Wyden Offers Amendment to Combat Secret Law
    We Can Be Arrested And Tried For Breaking Laws We Don't Know Exist

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    Re: Senate moves Patriot Act toward extension

    harry reid: opposition to the patriot act "takes away the best tools we have for stopping terrorists"

    RealClearPolitics - Video - Reid: Rand Paul's Opposition To PATRIOT Act Gives "Terrorists The Opportunity To Plot Against Our Country"

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    Re: Senate moves Patriot Act toward extension

    The slight advantage that these measures may provide in preventing terrorist actions is far overshadowed by the drastic reduction in our civil rights. The Patriot Act should never have existed in the first place, it does not make us safer*, and it needs to go.

    *And even if it does, it comes at far too high a cost.
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    Re: Senate moves Patriot Act toward extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Sure. You can even do what I'm guessing you're wanting to do, and incorrectly use it to misrepresent my position as somehow incapabatable with the constitution...probably specifically the 2nd amendment...despite the fact that my reasons for the above statement are such that it wouldn't apply in such a situation. But regardless if that's your intent or not, be my guest.
    So what you're saying is that the constitution can be interpreted through modern eyes in some cases but not others? How consistently inconsistent of the right wing.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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