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Casey Anthony Trial's Surprise

Seeing a weird division inside the family now. Seems like Lee and Cindy are trying very, very hard to destroy evidence against Casey (while staying consistent to their depositions). George, on the other hand, seems to want to reaffirm evidence (i.e. "death" smell in car). His current testimony is conflicting information provided in his deposition.
 
tessaesque said:
The submitted another request for mistrial today...the judge is reserving judgment for the time being. This is a change from previous requests when the Judge immediately denied the motions.
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Personally, I think Casey Anthony is guilty. But a mistrial is most likely at this point/.
 
Seems cold and calculating that Casey let everyone keep looking for Caylee, from July to December, when Casey was making up stories where Caylee might be. Maybe how Caylee died is still a mystery, but it seems fairly certain that Casey knew Caylee was dead, in June - July, 09.

If Casey was being abused at home, why did she not move out to a family abuse shelter? Some family abuse shelters have time limts, but Casey never went for even one night.

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Gladiator said:
Seems cold and calculating that Casey let everyone keep looking for Caylee, from July to December, when Casey was making up stories where Caylee might be. Maybe how Caylee died is still a mystery, but it seems fairly certain that Casey knew Caylee was dead, in June - July, 09.

If Casey was being abused at home, why did she not move out to a family abuse shelter? Some family abuse shelters have time limts, but Casey never went for even one night.

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Even if Casey was abused, it has nothing to do with this case.
 
Defense rests. Pokes a few holes in prosecution, but probably didn't present a clear enough case. Casey refused to testify. My guess? Conviction, sentenced to life, no chance for parole.
 
tessaesque said:
Defense rests. Pokes a few holes in prosecution, but probably didn't present a clear enough case. Casey refused to testify. My guess? Conviction, sentenced to life, no chance for parole.
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I dunno about that. I think the case, or at least parts of it, will mistrial. Also, I think at most she'll get criminally negligent manslaughter.
 
DashingAmerican said:
I dunno about that. I think the case, or at least parts of it, will mistrial. Also, I think at most she'll get criminally negligent manslaughter.
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that's too bad. she deserves a life behind bars. she and her mother are both narcissistic, evil bitches.

btw, were lesser counts included?
 
DashingAmerican said:
I dunno about that. I think the case, or at least parts of it, will mistrial. Also, I think at most she'll get criminally negligent manslaughter.
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Perry has denied either 4 or 5 (I believe) requests for mistrial. Yesterday, he deferred decision on a mistrial request. The prosecution is about to begin their rebuttal, closing arguments expected tomorrow/Saturday, deliberations on Sunday. I'm curious as to when Perry wouldn't make a decision regarding the most recent request.

I agree that there SHOULD be a mistrial. This case (on both sides) was put together in the most shoddy, ambiguous means available.
 
evanescence said:
Definitely a mistrial. The defense did its job. Presented just enough to cast doubt on her guilt which is all they need to accomplish.
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"In determining whether to declare a mistrial, the court must decide whether the error is so prejudicial and fundamental that expenditure of further time and expense would be wasteful, if not futile. Although the judge has the power to declare a mistrial and discharge a jury, this power should be "exercised with great care and only in cases of absolute necessity" (Salvatore v. State of Florida, 366 So. 2d 745 [Fla. 1978], cert. denied, 444 U.S. 885, 100 S. Ct. 177, 62 L. Ed. 2d 115 [1979]).

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/mistrial#ixzz1QxpAXJFN"


mistrial: West's Encyclopedia of American Law (Full Article) from Answers.com


If the witnesses lied, then it is for the Jury to weight the credibility of the testimony. What lies are key to determine guilt or innocence? Why can't the jury be trusted to sort out the evidence and testimony, to determine the facts of guilt, innocence, or reasonable doubt?


Listening to Cable TV accounts, the Anthony trial lies and contradicted statements, seem sensational. However, the more sensational news announcers can make the news appear, the higher their viewing share ratings, in general. Viewer ratings have been high for Anthony trial coverage. Is the trial really as sensational as the news coverage portrays?



I recall a quote from a prosecutor, who said something like, "I could indict a Ham Sandwich!" Facts and certainty can be exaggerated. Some TV announcers are ex-prosecutors.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham_sandwich

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MaggieD said:
Defense Claims Caylee Died of Accidental Drowning




This makes me sick. I believe her defense attornies said to her: "We don't want you to tell us what happened if you don't want to Casey. But you've got to have an explanation for what happened here if we're to mount a defense. Now! What could have happened??" Or maybe they concocted it for her and asked her with a meaningful look, "Is that what happened Casey??"

Fox just said that the father was in on it and helped her with the cover-up...that her body was found by that meter man weeks before he turned it in and he was holding on to it hoping for a reward.

The animals at the zoo are on parade. It makes me positively sick.

Casey Anthony Trial Opens with Shocking Claims : People.com
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Why would her lawyers say that to her, shouldn't they believe she is innocent? And in all likelihood, as delusional, crazy, insane, and out of touch with reality Casey is, I wouldn't doubt if she came up with this on her own.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
None of that matters to me.

None of that has anything to do with the death of a child unless the child was killed directly related to incest, molestation - etc.

But what happened to Mom when she was 5 or 15 does NOT matter at all to me. Just because someone had a ****ed up life does NOT mean they are rendered unable to make sound decisions and contrain their emotions.

I do, though, believe that a bunch of twisted **** happened - they're one hell of a ****ed up family and have earned all their misery.
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Does Casey look like she can make sound decisions? I don't think so.... she looks insane and emotionally disconnected from reality. She isn't normal and that is perplexing. Something is wrong with her. I'd say her past is definitely relevant, but having a past of abuse shouldn't mean you should get away with murder either.
 
tessaesque said:
Sometimes it does. I don't know what she did or whether she killed her daughter. I don't know what kind of life her daughter lived before she died. But if something traumatic happened to Casey as a child it's likely possible she developed sociopathtic tendancies (lack of emotional connection, inability to empathetize, etc) or other coping mechanisms that have affected her ability to function normally.
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I haven't really watched the trail, but I know somebody that was sexually abused and basically sexually tortured as a child, and she told me she would block out reality so she could function as a child. She said that sometimes she'd disconnect with reality to the point all her childhood memories are blurry and distorted, and she isn't sure all of her memories are real or her brain trying to make things seem different so she could cope. I think what you're saying is very possible.
 
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Marilyn Monroe said:
I just wonder what really happened. Casey needs to testify. We need to see her tell the story. Undoubtedly it will be made up stuff. That's what's sad. We'll never know the true story.
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The thing is... if she didn't do anything wrong and the death was an accident or the little girl hurt herself and Casey is innocent, then there is no reason why she should be lying or having trouble getting the pieces to fit together.
 
evanescence said:
Even if Casey was abused, it has nothing to do with this case.
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It's relevant to her mental health... I am not saying it's a free pass to kill other people, but it's essential to understanding her and her emotional health. It's also essential in judging her behavior, her actions, and her guilt. It's possible that her insane behaviors and lying may be due to acute disassociation, which is a phrase trauma survivors experience.... I haven't been watching the trail, but I think her past and anything that may cause emotional issues is relevant to who she is today and what may be influencing her choices and actions currently. It's relevant in judging her and trying to decipher her, that's all.
 
Maybe Casey is keeping quiet to protect her father and her mother. Cindy might have left the ladder by the pool, and Caylee drowned. There was decomposition detected in the Anthony back yard, by two cadaver dogs. Was this where Caylee was placed, aftger she was discored to have drowned, and was pulled from the pool by family members? George may have put duct tape on Caylee's mouth after she had drowned, and dumped the body, to try to make it look like a kidnapping, by others, so as to prevent the guilt of a negligent death, for all family members. Probably Casey should have been monitioring Caylee to prevent her drowning.
 
Perhaps George is the real master of Illusions, by knowing where he put Caylee's body, and then organizing a Command Center to search for Caylee's body, with his daughter Casey in jail for murder of Caylee. Did George promise Casey that she would be found not guilty of murder? That it would be determined that Casey had been kidnapped?


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SheWolf said:
The thing is... if she didn't do anything wrong and the death was an accident or the little girl hurt herself and Casey is innocent, then there is no reason why she should be lying or having trouble getting the pieces to fit together.
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My theory..and it's JUST a theory...is that she would be terrified of her mother disowning her or hating her or some other dramatic reaction to finding out Caylee had died accidentally on Casey's watch. From all of the available evidence (link earlier in the thread), it sounds as though Casey was fiercely protective of her mother and fiercely reliant on her for emotional backing/support. Then, all of a sudden in June of '08 everything changes.
 
tessaesque said:
My theory..and it's JUST a theory...is that she would be terrified of her mother disowning her or hating her or some other dramatic reaction to finding out Caylee had died accidentally on Casey's watch. From all of the available evidence (link earlier in the thread), it sounds as though Casey was fiercely protective of her mother and fiercely reliant on her for emotional backing/support. Then, all of a sudden in June of '08 everything changes.
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But if it was an accident and Casey won't give the whole story, then why would she be willing to go to jail/prison for that reason? Her mother loves Caylee, but would her mother prefer to lose Casey too because she handle thinking Caylee died on Casey's watch? My preferred choice wouldn't be my daughter making herself potentially look like a murderer and possibly going to prison for life.
 
Just my 2 cents... I think the whole truth has not come out here. Abuse can make people do bizarre things, especially in an all-American family setting where no one would ever believe you. I think some horrible accident happened, her father helped her cover it up, and she is so looney tunes insane that she was able to block it out and party. Don't underestimate the power of abuse and what it can do to a mind. I think the whole family is whacked out, and if Casey goes down alone.. looks like she will.. it is a miscarriage of justice. Mom, Dad, brother-- they all make me sick. Poor little baby girl.
 
krickitt said:
Just my 2 cents... I think the whole truth has not come out here. Abuse can make people do bizarre things, especially in an all-American family setting where no one would ever believe you. I think some horrible accident happened, her father helped her cover it up, and she is so looney tunes insane that she was able to block it out and party. Don't underestimate the power of abuse and what it can do to a mind. I think the whole family is whacked out, and if Casey goes down alone.. looks like she will.. it is a miscarriage of justice. Mom, Dad, brother-- they all make me sick. Poor little baby girl.
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there is no actual proof of any abuse here, only accusation and diversion.

j-mac
 
j-mac said:
there is no actual proof of any abuse here, only accusation and diversion.

j-mac
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There's no actual proof that Casey killed her, either...just vague evidence and supposition.
 
True to both of the above.
They CAN'T put her to death, that would be crazy, and locking her up for life.... fine, but I think more will come out in appeal. I think the whole stinking family is hoping for a not guilty verdict. The appeal will bring forth more truth, or if it is locked.. there is more to this. Hopefully the sentencing phase will make these people tell the truth. I don't think she murdered her daughter. I think it was an accident, and they are all lying psychos. For God's sake-- the brother was tested for paternity. Is this a healthy family? No. Is this a family that lies? Yes. Messed up...
 
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