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    Re: Robots develop language to 'talk' to each other

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Just because they can do something doesn't mean they should.
    I bet those robots are making fun of your irrational fear of technology right now.
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    Re: Robots develop language to 'talk' to each other

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    Humans have shown that anything they can imagine can be done. It is only a state of mind. I wonder if anyone has made a documentary on Buck Rodgers Space Command and the Space Shuttle?

    If our robots ever learn evil, it will be through our own making. Hopefully they won't be watching to much tv with the kids.

    Right you are. Despite what we see in the Terminator movies, robots will never be able to do anything without a program that gives them instructions. Even AI is nothing more than a program. Programs are written by humans. So maybe robots should worship humans as Gods, but they could only do that if a program was written for them to do so, and they would never comprehend the meaning either. Whether bowing before us in apparent prayer, or playing a game of chess, it's all in an algorithm developed by a human, not in any kind of a sentient consciousness.
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    Re: Robots develop language to 'talk' to each other

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Should we chastize them for making thier own language?
    How would you do that?
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    Re: Robots develop language to 'talk' to each other

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Right you are. Despite what we see in the Terminator movies, robots will never be able to do anything without a program that gives them instructions. Even AI is nothing more than a program. Programs are written by humans. So maybe robots should worship humans as Gods, but they could only do that if a program was written for them to do so, and they would never comprehend the meaning either. Whether bowing before us in apparent prayer, or playing a game of chess, it's all in an algorithm developed by a human, not in any kind of a sentient consciousness.
    If you are referring to the robots we are capable of creating, today, that's absolutely true. However, there is no reason why we wouldn't be able to create Strong AI, in the future. Biological evolution already made thinking machines, therefore, it can be done, it's just a question of how long it will take to reverse-engineer the brain.
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    Re: Robots develop language to 'talk' to each other

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    How would you do that?
    I'd say "Bad robot! Naughty robot!"

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    Re: Robots develop language to 'talk' to each other

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Should we chastize them for making thier own language?
    The scientists who created the robots should be.
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    Re: Robots develop language to 'talk' to each other

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I bet those robots are making fun of your irrational fear of technology right now.
    You really think it is a good idea for scientist to create robots that can create their own language?
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    Re: Robots develop language to 'talk' to each other

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Right you are. Despite what we see in the Terminator movies, robots will never be able to do anything without a program that gives them instructions. Even AI is nothing more than a program. Programs are written by humans. So maybe robots should worship humans as Gods, but they could only do that if a program was written for them to do so, and they would never comprehend the meaning either. Whether bowing before us in apparent prayer, or playing a game of chess, it's all in an algorithm developed by a human, not in any kind of a sentient consciousness.
    I agree that a computer will never be able to do something that it hasn't been programmed to do. The issue however is the notion that all of a computers actions won't be what it was originally coded to do.

    If we can develop AI that can understand things to a point that it can essentially program its own code, then we'll have something that theoritically is doing what we programmed it to do (adapt as needed by programming its own code) but could do things the original programming wasn't intended to do (whatever it programs itself to do).

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    Re: Robots develop language to 'talk' to each other

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The scientists who created the robots should be.
    Why?










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    Re: Robots develop language to 'talk' to each other

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I agree that a computer will never be able to do something that it hasn't been programmed to do. The issue however is the notion that all of a computers actions won't be what it was originally coded to do.

    If we can develop AI that can understand things to a point that it can essentially program its own code, then we'll have something that theoritically is doing what we programmed it to do (adapt as needed by programming its own code) but could do things the original programming wasn't intended to do (whatever it programs itself to do).
    Actually you bring up an interesting point. I used to think this argument was weak because how much different will the robots actions be to how it was "intended to be programmed"? Like scream "rape" everytime it saw a bird or twitch everytime you said it's name.

    But its only when i got the fantastic opportunity to go to a game studio last year and speak with the developers did the topic of "accidential glitches that done some totally cool and unexpected stuff" pop up in regards to the AI of the in-game characters.

    Basically what your saying is actually already happening and there is no reason to believe that the transition from mere in-game AI to robotic AI that performs in this sphere of reality would be any different.
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