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    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Read my post again. I am against Obama's war on Libya, as I was against Bush's war on Iraq. The only difference is that one is a Republican and the other is a Democrat. Both are wrong. There is actually one important difference - Bush did go to Congress with misleading information, which turned out to be a pack of lies. Obama, on the other hand, didn't even have the decency to lie to Congress. He just decided that he is the law, and I believe that, if he does not submit to Congressional review, as prescribed by law, then he should be impeached for violating his oath of office, and engaging in what any reasonable person would describe as a criminal act.

    In addition, if Obama continues to flaunt the law, then in 2012, if Sarah Palin (who I believe is a complete idiot) runs, I would vote for her as the best chance to remove a criminal from office.
    Do you remember when Obama took his oath he messed up the words and then took the oath behind closed doors later?

    Relevant?

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    Re: Power outage: Libya war shows limits of War Powers Act

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He didn't have to, because he was within the time frame allowed by the war powers act. Do you even know what the war powers act is?
    *crickets*
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    Re: Power outage: Libya war shows limits of War Powers Act

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Could you post a link, please?
    The Rachel Maddow Show: Can presidents wage war without consulting Congress?

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    Re: Power outage: Libya war shows limits of War Powers Act

    today:

    Crossing party lines to deliver a stunning rebuke to the commander in chief, the vast majority of the House voted Friday for resolutions telling President Obama he has broken the constitutional chain of authority by committing U.S. troops to the international military mission in Libya.

    In two votes — on competing resolutions that amounted to legislative lectures of Mr. Obama — Congress escalated the brewing constitutional clash over whether he ignored the founding document’s grant of war powers by sending U.S. troops to aid in enforcing a no-fly zone and naval blockade of Libya.

    The resolutions were non-binding, and only one of them passed, but taken together, roughly three-quarters of the House voted to put Mr. Obama on notice that he must explain himself or else face future consequences, possibly including having funds for the war cut off.

    “He has a chance to get this right. If he doesn’t, Congress will exercise its constitutional authority and make it right,” said House Speaker John A. Boehner, the Ohio Republican who wrote the resolution that passed, 268-145, and sets a two-week deadline for the president to deliver the information the House is seeking.

    Minutes after approving Mr. Boehner’s measure, the House defeated an even more strongly-worded resolution offered by Rep. Dennis Kucinich, Ohio Democrat, that would have insisted the president begin a withdrawal of troops.

    The Kucinich resolution failed 148-265. In a telling signal, 87 Republicans voted for Mr. Kucinich’s resolution — more than the 61 Democrats that did.

    Still, taken together, 324 members of Congress voted for one resolution or both resolutions, including 91 Democrats, or nearly half the caucus. The size of the votes signals overwhelming discontent with Mr. Obama’s handling of the constitutional issues surrounding the Libya fight.

    Mr. Obama’s only allies were top Democratic leaders, who said neither resolution was helpful as the president tries to aid U.S. allies’ efforts.
    Bipartisan Congress rebuffs Obama on Libya mission - Washington Times

    days not weeks, anyone?

    "limited" war?

    nation building?

    are you following the incipient civil wars breaking out in yemen (on the gulf) and syria (across the jordan)?

    national security, anyone?

    protection of civilian lives?

    are you sure this state dept knows what it's doing?

    party on, peaceniks

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    Re: Power outage: Libya war shows limits of War Powers Act

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    are you sure this state dept knows what it's doing?
    After Iraq, uck no

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    Re: Power outage: Libya war shows limits of War Powers Act

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    After Iraq, uck no
    State was the first to bump heads with Bush on Iraq. But, hey, don't let the facts get in your way.

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    Re: Power outage: Libya war shows limits of War Powers Act

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    After Iraq...
    Fed up with a president “who can’t make his mind up” as Libyan rebels are on the brink of defeat, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is looking to the exits.

    At the tail end of her mission to bolster the Libyan opposition, which has suffered days of losses to Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s forces, Clinton announced that she’s done with Obama after 2012 — even if he wins again.

    “Obviously, she’s not happy with dealing with a president who can’t decide if today is Tuesday or Wednesday, who can’t make his mind up,” a Clinton insider told The Daily. “She’s exhausted, tired.”

    He went on, “If you take a look at what’s on her plate as compared with what’s on the plates of previous Secretary of States — there’s more going on now at this particular moment, and it’s like playing sports with a bunch of amateurs. And she doesn’t have any power. She’s trying to do what she can to keep things from imploding.”

    Clinton is said to be especially peeved with the president’s waffling over how to encourage the kinds of Arab uprisings that have recently toppled regimes in Egypt and Tunisia, and in particular his refusal to back a no-fly zone over Libya.

    In the past week, former President Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton’s former top adviser Anne-Marie Slaughter lashed out at Obama for the same reason.
    OH, HILL NO - Obama's Indecision Pushed Hillary Over The Edge

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    Re: Power outage: Libya war shows limits of War Powers Act

    I googled your link, I couldn't find any non-conservative biased media reporting on this.

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    Re: Power outage: Libya war shows limits of War Powers Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron View Post
    Just overthrow the regime and get done with it.
    Agree. The US does need a regime change. Let's see what happens at the next election.

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    Re: Power outage: Libya war shows limits of War Powers Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Agree. The US does need a regime change. Let's see what happens at the next election.
    I love how its a regime when its dems in office.

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