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AP Exclusive: Former Palin aide pens tell-all

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're joking. If you aren't, then no proof would ever be sufficient.



There's absolutely no reason to believe Barack Obama did not write Audacity of Hope, or Dreams From My Father, let alone that Bill Ayers secretly wrote one of them.


Arrogance; a characteristic which, supposedly, has never been exhibited by anyone with an 'R' next to their name? This is absurd.

It's telling that you confine your criticism to entirely superficial comments on his appearance and mannerisms.


I'm not even going to speculate as to what you're rambling about.



First of all, I'm not a Liberal, although, I am unmoved by attempts by the right to rebrand it as a dirty word. I'm a Libertarian Socialist. (A real Libertarian.)

Also, the assertion that Liberalism is inherently mysogynistic is ridiculous, but that appears to be true to form.

I am typing from my phone at the moment, however if you can be patient I'll give you a proper schooling when I get back home.

J-mac
 
Amd i'm a fascist anarchist. You know "a real fascist". :roll: :lamo

You're merely advertizing your ignorance. The word 'Libertarian' was coined in the late 1700s, however, it was intially used in a different context, to a philosophical school of thought concerning metaphysics, etc. The word was first used, and popularized, in reference to a political ideology, in the mid 1800's, specifically, referring to anti-authoritarian Socialists, real socialists, including Anarchists, and the predominant schools of Marxism of the day, which was completely antithetical to Bolshevism, or Maoism, etc. It's still used in this context abroad, as it has been for almost 200 years, in fact, the word 'socialist' is largely seen as redundant, because it's implicit. Look it up if you want, you don't have to take my word for it, this information is easily accessible.
 
Troopergate, oh yeah, another made up scandal that only got legs cause she was the VP Candidate. I know, like how she really faked her pregnancy so that her daughter wouldn't look like a whore having Trig!

Did Conservative hack your account?
 
i guess we'll see. i'm betting he's truthful, or she WOULD sue.

Oh yeah, that's a good point. I like how she accused the other guy writing a book about her of being a pedophile, after the rampage she went on after Letterman cracked a joke her daughter and she took it the wrong way (as a pedophilia joke). Could the woman be a bigger ****ing hypocrite?

The guy had to apologize twice to her on national TV... WTF
 
You're merely advertizing your ignorance. The word 'Libertarian' was coined in the late 1700s, however, it was intially used in a different context, to a philosophical school of thought concerning metaphysics, etc. The word was first used, and popularized, in reference to a political ideology, in the mid 1800's, specifically, referring to anti-authoritarian Socialists, real socialists, including Anarchists, and the predominant schools of Marxism of the day, which was completely antithetical to Bolshevism, or Maoism, etc. It's still used in this context abroad, as it has been for almost 200 years, in fact, the word 'socialist' is largely seen as redundant, because it's implicit. Look it up if you want, you don't have to take my word for it, this information is easily accessible.


:lamo in 50k posts no one has ever explained true "libertarianism" to me. Thank you. No really thank you for your extremely insightful and eye opening post telling the Good Reverend what libertarianism truly is.... Omg the Good Reverend can finally be at peace. Thank you, no thank you wise sage for such a gift is but a once in a lifetime experience and i am truly better for it. Thank you thank you thank you. :ssst:
 
Amd i'm a fascist anarchist. You know "a real fascist". :roll: :lamo

A libertarian can either be capitalist or socialist... lol. They are both economic philosophies that small government libertarians on both sides happen to believe can work without government force, because they believe their preferred economic theory is part of the natural state of man and will work without government force. I think some forms of socialism are not coercive, because many societies have engaged in various forms of it such as collective land for hunting and access to resources. I prefer voluntary communities that allow such groups to organize however they choose best. If the other poster wants to live a socialist community, then by all means, he should be allowed to.
 
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I am curious as to the validity of the emails.

Who verified them and how do we know they are real.

It is very easy to fake emails.

Who saves 60,000 emails over a period of years? Hands everbody, who has done this?
 
I am typing from my phone at the moment, however if you can be patient I'll give you a proper schooling when I get back home.

J-mac

Oh noes, he better do some researchin' while you're booting up or else he will be pwned.
 
You do know Obama will not allow anyone to look at any of his records. I guess it's an openness and transparency glitch, or he hasn't finished forging them yet. LOL.

Then are you saying that the American Bar Association and the National Association of Colleges and Schools, Columbia and Harvard are all part of a conspiracy deceive you and Sarah Palin concerning Obama's qualifications to graduate from Harvard Law school?
 
Then are you saying that the American Bar Association and the National Association of Colleges and Schools, Columbia and Harvard are all part of a conspiracy deceive you and Sarah Palin concerning Obama's qualifications to graduate from Harvard Law school?

My, you catch on quickly. :) Isn't this fun?
 
They still haven't dropped the issue about his records being sealed?
 
:lamo in 50k posts no one has ever explained true "libertarianism" to me. Thank you. No really thank you for your extremely insightful and eye opening post telling the Good Reverend what libertarianism truly is.... Omg the Good Reverend can finally be at peace. Thank you, no thank you wise sage for such a gift is but a once in a lifetime experience and i am truly better for it. Thank you thank you thank you. :ssst:

It is merely a fact. There is no other way to see it. 'Libertarianism', as a polirtical tendency, was initially used to connote a spectrum of socialist thought for about a hundred years, until the late 40's/early 50's, when a bunch of American disciples of Ayn Rand took the word, and started calling themselves 'Libertarians', despite the fact that thier ideology was/is very nearly the polar opposite of the literal definition, which is still used ,in this context, everywhere but the United States. Again, you don't have to take my word for it.
Libertarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
A libertarian can either be capitalist or socialist... lol. They are both economic philosophies that small government libertarians on both sides happen to believe can work without government force, because they believe their preferred economic theory is part of the natural state of man and will work without government force.

Except one is the literal definition, which has been used for almost 200 years, the other is a phony American permutation that's only been around for about 50 years, or so. Also, while both philosophies place a certain emphasis on individual autonomy, and a critique of authority, they are very nearly polar opposites in every other respect.

I think some forms of socialism are not coercive, because many societies have engaged in various forms of it such as collective land for hunting and access to resources. I prefer voluntary communities that allow such groups to organize however they choose best.

If you define Socialism as it has traditionally been conceived, it's in no way coercive. The heart of Socialism, as it had always been conceived, was democracy. The Soviet/Maoist/etc. variant was a significant departure, one that was harshly condemned by the leading Socialist intellectuals.

If the other poster wants to live a socialist community, then by all means, he should be allowed to.

Agreed.
 
Nope. Not even after I dug up a link from when the President was originally appointed as the President of the Harvard Law Review. He blew right past it.

First Black Elected to Head Harvard's Law Review - NYTimes.com

You are not doing the President any favors by reminding people that he was a part of an Affirmative Action program.

From your article.

"Until the 1970's the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon.

That system came under attack in the 1970's and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition. The new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review".
 
I am curious as to the validity of the emails.

Who verified them and how do we know they are real.

It is very easy to fake emails.

Who saves 60,000 emails over a period of years? Hands everbody, who has done this?

I assumed they were saved under the requirement that all government correspondence is to be preserved. I might be mistaken though.
 
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