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    Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    The 5-4 decision represents one of the largest prison release orders in U.S. history. The court majority says overcrowding has caused 'suffering and death.' In a sharp dissent, Justice Antonin Scalia warns 'terrible things are sure to happen.'

    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ordered California on Monday to release tens of thousands of its prisoners to relieve overcrowding, saying that "needless suffering and death" had resulted from putting too many inmates into facilities that cannot hold them in decent conditions.

    It is one of the largest prison release orders in the nation's history, and it sharply split the high court.
    Justices upheld an order from a three-judge panel in California that called for releasing 38,000 to 46,000 prisoners. Since then, the state has transferred about 9,000 state inmates to county jails. As a result, the total prison population is now about 32,000 more than the capacity limit set by the panel.

    Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, speaking for the majority, said California's prisons had "fallen short of minimum constitutional requirements" because of overcrowding. As many as 200 prisoners may live in gymnasium, he said, and as many as 54 prisoners share a single toilet.



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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Depends on who they release, and how they go about it. Lesser crimes will likely have lesser consequences. Home arrest might also be an option. It simply may not be as dire as Justice Scalia fears.

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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    *snort*

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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Depends on who they release, and how they go about it. Lesser crimes will likely have lesser consequences. Home arrest might also be an option. It simply may not be as dire as Justice Scalia fears.
    Of course not, releasing tens of thousands of criminals back into society because the prisons are over crowded shouldn't be anything to worry about. And of course, since they are releasing this many, that won't make MORE crime likely since ya know... "what are they gonna do, throw me in jail?"
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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    One can get six months for a suspended license here in Texas (and they will suspend your license at the drop of a hat and add surcharges that can suspend your license too.) That seems a bit extreme to me as a punishment.

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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Of course not, releasing tens of thousands of criminals back into society because the prisons are over crowded shouldn't be anything to worry about. And of course, since they are releasing this many, that won't make MORE crime likely since ya know... "what are they gonna do, throw me in jail?"
    it all depends on the details, the who and how. Some really wouldn't make that much difference at all.

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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    As long as its the non-violent drug use type criminals and not the murderers and rapists...

    I would say white collar type crimes like embezzlement, but let's face it those people don't go to prison.
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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    I can understand why people would be worried, but as Deuce said, as long as they are non-violent types it really shouldn't be that much of a problem.
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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    The sad thing is, what else can we do? We simply do not have room for these people, and it's not like we haven't built a lot of prisons. Do you have a better idea?
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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I can understand why people would be worried, but as Deuce said, as long as they are non-violent types it really shouldn't be that much of a problem.

    The penalty should fit the crime and I think our penalties are pretty harsh. And we do have a very large incarceration rate per capita.

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