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Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

The Leftists and the government replaced the black parents a long time ago.

holy sheet. one of the most insightful honest statements ever made on DP :thumbs: that's what you get when you take personal responsibility out of the equation. that's why blacks are over-represented by factors of 2 and 3 in the welfare and crime statistics. It is not an innate failure. It is not because blacks are somehow inferior. It is because the leftists have a vested interest in keeping them dependent on the govt teat.
 
holy sheet. one of the most insightful honest statements ever made on DP :thumbs: that's what you get when you take personal responsibility out of the equation. that's why blacks are over-represented by factors of 2 and 3 in the welfare and crime statistics. It is not an innate failure. It is not because blacks are somehow inferior. It is because the leftists have a vested interest in keeping them dependent on the govt teat.

I think we're twins separated at birth...
 
Wait, are you actually supporting the death sentence or are you being sarcastic?

"Death Sentence" is too expensive.

The institutionalized animals that will never get out of prison and now just commit brutal crimes while living out their lives in prison... If they all went missing, I wouldn't care.
 
Who doesn't?

Colorado. We pretty much threw out all our non-violent drug offenders. Now we don't have a prison population problem anymore.

I really think one thing pushing these problems is that we throw way too many people into jail that we probably shouldn't.
 
Colorado. We pretty much threw out all our non-violent drug offenders. Now we don't have a prison population problem anymore.

I really think one thing pushing these problems is that we throw way too many people into jail that we probably shouldn't.

We also house many people who don't deserve our sympathy.
 
We also house many people who don't deserve our sympathy.

That has nothing to do with what I said. Certainly there are violent, guilty people in jail who belong there. But there are tons of other people whom we do not need to throw in jail
 
Why not? I fail to see the problem with that. You're given welfare as long as you're taking classes at the local Community College or something similar, and if you fail your classes or drop out, the money shuts off.

THis is a conservative idea that has been blown out of the water by lieberals as a violation of civil rights..........
 
That has nothing to do with what I said. Certainly there are violent, guilty people in jail who belong there. But there are tons of other people whom we do not need to throw in jail

I agree 100% about the lesser drug-related offenses.

But the ultra-violent, guilty people... Why do we continue to house them? That was my earlier point.
 
Hazlnut has a valid point, why are we leaving people in prison for life again?
 
That has nothing to do with what I said. Certainly there are violent, guilty people in jail who belong there. But there are tons of other people whom we do not need to throw in jail

I quite agree. The death penalty is another issue. But with or without it, we still have a lot of people in jail who really don't need to be there.
 
Maybe he should have thought about that before he lit up. I'd love to give weed a try, just to see what all the hub bub is about. But I won't till it's legalized, if ever. Why? Because breaking the law... for my own gain is, well ya know... ILLEGAL.


Why throw speeders into Jail? And that guy that ONLY had two beers, really, aren't there "worse" criminals out there?

How about that guy that "only" slapped his girlfriend? I mean, it was just a slap, does he really deserve to be in jail?

How about that kdi that stole a couple of snickers bars, I mean it's not liek the store really lost money...

Or maybe, we should be more able to make rational decisions about what is criminal, and deserving of locking up. Each crime shold have a punishment that matches the crime. Being impared behind the wheel is not about being impared alone. It is about being behind the wheel as well. That risks a life or more. Being high, . . . not so much. And I wouldn't lock away a kid who stole some snicker bars either. The important thing is that he is punished, but punished appropriately.
 
But the ultra-violent, guilty people... Why do we continue to house them? That was my earlier point.

It's cheaper and easier than killing them.
 
All those black and hispanic kids that have been convicted were convicted because they're not white? Not because they broke the law?

The sentences are often different, as is the risk of being caught in the first place.
 
Maybe Kandahar would like to step in and takes someone's place? It's not like we haven't seen enough 7-11 store videos of black men jumping over the counter and brutalizing the employees. Someone want to try and convince me they didn't do it?

Because of course the first people who are going to be released are those who commit assault and armed robbery, rather than the people who are in prison for years because they smoked a joint or shoplifted or did something else stupid. Do you listen to yourself before you come up with these straw men arguments? :roll:
 
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Hazlnut has a valid point, why are we leaving people in prison for life again?

Because it's cheaper to incarcerate someone to life than to go through the legal hassle of executing them?

You know, I've noticed something about you: You don't give a damn about big government. You're only against big government when it might actually help someone. You're perfectly fine with wasteful spending at the taxpayer expense...as long as the recipient of the money ends up inarguably worse off and society as a whole is made more miserable.
 
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that's true, however, good lawyers keep people from going to prison. so, no, it's certainly not a buncha crap. our prisons are not full of rich people, you know.

I agree with that, 100%, however I think are more guilty rich people that get off than there are poor people who are wrongfully convicted.
 
holy sheet. one of the most insightful honest statements ever made on DP :thumbs: that's what you get when you take personal responsibility out of the equation. that's why blacks are over-represented by factors of 2 and 3 in the welfare and crime statistics. It is not an innate failure. It is not because blacks are somehow inferior. It is because the leftists have a vested interest in keeping them dependent on the govt teat.

You said it brother!!
 
The sentences are often different, as is the risk of being caught in the first place.

Yeah? All I have to say to that is...buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul****!

I've never been acosted by the cops. Wanna take a guess as to why that is??
 
I agree with that, 100%, however I think are more guilty rich people that get off than there are poor people who are wrongfully convicted.

agreed. funny how they always want to blame it on having a public defender and not that they were actually innocent. they just didn't have a good enough lawyer to get them off despite their guilt.
 
Yeah? All I have to say to that is...buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul****!

I've never been acosted by the cops. Wanna take a guess as to why that is??

I have no idea, as I don't know you. But whatever the reason, your anecdotal story does not change the reality that blacks are more likely to receive harsher sentences for comparable crimes. Furthermore, blacks are more likely than whites to be pulled over by the police for "suspicion of illegal drugs" without any real justification.
 
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Yeah? All I have to say to that is...buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul****!

I've never been acosted by the cops. Wanna take a guess as to why that is??

I have only ever been acosted by the cops on a few occasions

1. I was drunk and started a bar brawl

guilty as charged. I chose to get ****ed up on tequilla and I got what I deserved

2. various traffic violations over the course of 30 years driving

guilty as charged. I chose to break the speed limit, run that red light or stop sign, etc

3. I was stopped once for driving white through a black neighborhood at 5 o'clock in the morning

cop was very polite, just wanted to know what a white guy was doing in that part of town that early in the morning.


amazingly I have managed to avoid leaving my fingerprints, DNA or other trace evidence at the scenes of crimes I did not commit. I have also been fortunate enough to not have a bunch of guys who look like me running around committing crimes.
 
I have no idea, as I don't know you. But whatever the reason, your anecdotal story does not change the reality that blacks are more likely to receive harsher sentences for comparable crimes. Furthermore, blacks are more likely than whites to be pulled over by the police for "suspicion of illegal drugs" without any real justification.

I got pulled over for suspicion of illegal drugs. I was 19 years old, and white.
 
I have no idea, as I don't know you. But whatever the reason, your anecdotal story does not change the reality that blacks are more likely to receive harsher sentences for comparable crimes. Furthermore, blacks are more likely than whites to be pulled over by the police for "suspicion of illegal drugs" without any real justification.

The reason the cops don't **** with me, is because I don't do things to cause the cops to **** with me.

Blacks who are ****ing up and look like they're ****ing up get ****ed with by the cops. Unfortunately, blacks **** up, alot and that is a fact.
 
I have only ever been acosted by the cops on a few occasions

1. I was drunk and started a bar brawl

guilty as charged. I chose to get ****ed up on tequilla and I got what I deserved

2. various traffic violations over the course of 30 years driving

guilty as charged. I chose to break the speed limit, run that red light or stop sign, etc

3. I was stopped once for driving white through a black neighborhood at 5 o'clock in the morning

cop was very polite, just wanted to know what a white guy was doing in that part of town that early in the morning.


amazingly I have managed to avoid leaving my fingerprints, DNA or other trace evidence at the scenes of crimes I did not commit. I have also been fortunate enough to not have a bunch of guys who look like me running around committing crimes.

Oh, that'll get you pulled over in a heart beat. You, "I'm looking for a rock", written all over you.
 
The reason the cops don't **** with me, is because I don't do things to cause the cops to **** with me.

Good for you.

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Blacks who are ****ing up and look like they're ****ing up get ****ed with by the cops. Unfortunately, blacks **** up, alot and that is a fact.

Blacks are more likely to be stopped without justification and more likely to receive harsher sentences for comparable crimes.
 
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