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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    We also house many people who don't deserve our sympathy.
    That has nothing to do with what I said. Certainly there are violent, guilty people in jail who belong there. But there are tons of other people whom we do not need to throw in jail
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Why not? I fail to see the problem with that. You're given welfare as long as you're taking classes at the local Community College or something similar, and if you fail your classes or drop out, the money shuts off.
    THis is a conservative idea that has been blown out of the water by lieberals as a violation of civil rights..........

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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That has nothing to do with what I said. Certainly there are violent, guilty people in jail who belong there. But there are tons of other people whom we do not need to throw in jail
    I agree 100% about the lesser drug-related offenses.

    But the ultra-violent, guilty people... Why do we continue to house them? That was my earlier point.

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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Hazlnut has a valid point, why are we leaving people in prison for life again?
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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That has nothing to do with what I said. Certainly there are violent, guilty people in jail who belong there. But there are tons of other people whom we do not need to throw in jail
    I quite agree. The death penalty is another issue. But with or without it, we still have a lot of people in jail who really don't need to be there.

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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Maybe he should have thought about that before he lit up. I'd love to give weed a try, just to see what all the hub bub is about. But I won't till it's legalized, if ever. Why? Because breaking the law... for my own gain is, well ya know... ILLEGAL.


    Why throw speeders into Jail? And that guy that ONLY had two beers, really, aren't there "worse" criminals out there?

    How about that guy that "only" slapped his girlfriend? I mean, it was just a slap, does he really deserve to be in jail?

    How about that kdi that stole a couple of snickers bars, I mean it's not liek the store really lost money...
    Or maybe, we should be more able to make rational decisions about what is criminal, and deserving of locking up. Each crime shold have a punishment that matches the crime. Being impared behind the wheel is not about being impared alone. It is about being behind the wheel as well. That risks a life or more. Being high, . . . not so much. And I wouldn't lock away a kid who stole some snicker bars either. The important thing is that he is punished, but punished appropriately.

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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    But the ultra-violent, guilty people... Why do we continue to house them? That was my earlier point.
    It's cheaper and easier than killing them.
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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    All those black and hispanic kids that have been convicted were convicted because they're not white? Not because they broke the law?
    The sentences are often different, as is the risk of being caught in the first place.
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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Maybe Kandahar would like to step in and takes someone's place? It's not like we haven't seen enough 7-11 store videos of black men jumping over the counter and brutalizing the employees. Someone want to try and convince me they didn't do it?
    Because of course the first people who are going to be released are those who commit assault and armed robbery, rather than the people who are in prison for years because they smoked a joint or shoplifted or did something else stupid. Do you listen to yourself before you come up with these straw men arguments?
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    Re: Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Hazlnut has a valid point, why are we leaving people in prison for life again?
    Because it's cheaper to incarcerate someone to life than to go through the legal hassle of executing them?

    You know, I've noticed something about you: You don't give a damn about big government. You're only against big government when it might actually help someone. You're perfectly fine with wasteful spending at the taxpayer expense...as long as the recipient of the money ends up inarguably worse off and society as a whole is made more miserable.
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