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Missouri officials say tornado killed at least 89

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JOPLIN, Mo. —

A massive tornado that tore a 6-mile path across southwestern Missouri killed at least 89 people as it slammed into the city of Joplin, ripping into a hospital, crushing cars like soda cans and leaving a forest of splintered tree trunks behind where entire neighborhoods once stood.

Authorities warned that the death toll could climb as search and rescue workers continued their efforts. Their task was made more miserable as a new thunderstorm with strong winds, heavy rain pelted part of the city with quarter-sized hail.

Missouri officials say tornado killed at least 89 - Peoria, IL - pjstar.com

This is terrible. Let's keep those people in our thoughts.
 
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Absolutely. I woke up today, turned on the TV and saw this. Horrific display of Mother Nature's Awsome force. The people of Joplin MO, have my prayers.

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They said 3/4 of a town destroyed and unrecognizable.
 
La Nina has turned out to be a real bitch this year. This spring has been one of the worst ones for tornadoes in history.
 
La Nina has turned out to be a real bitch this year. This spring has been one of the worst ones for tornadoes in history.

april 27, we had 160 tornadoes touch down in Alabama in one day. path of destruction a mile wide and 25 miles long through Tuscaloosa county.
 
And they're going to put the exact same houses in the exact same places, on the taxpayer's dime, and everyone's going to be truly astounded when this happens again.
 
And they're going to put the exact same houses in the exact same places, on the taxpayer's dime, and everyone's going to be truly astounded when this happens again.

of course they are, they rebuilt New Orleans didn't they?
 
And they're going to put the exact same houses in the exact same places, on the taxpayer's dime, and everyone's going to be truly astounded when this happens again.

Tornados are somewhat different then a hurricane for instance

You can build homes outside of the danager zone for flooding from a hurricane, and should if you want insurance (I do not support government insurance for morons who build on the sand bar islands on the Atlanic or on the coast at low levels of elevation). But other then being within what is considered tornado alley, you can not build your house in an area that would not be effected by a tornado as they can hit anywhere
 
True, but it isn't particularly difficult to make houses tornado resistant. You'll notice that they won't do this.
 
And they're going to put the exact same houses in the exact same places, on the taxpayer's dime, and everyone's going to be truly astounded when this happens again.

There is so much wrong with this post that I don't even know where to begin. For starters, Tornadoes aren't like hurricanes or floods. . They occur through the entirety of the midwest and the south. So, what would your plan be, Viktyr? Would you like to evacuate, permanently, all of the residents of Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, Illinois, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Texas and Louisiana? It's difficult to predict where a tornado will hit.

Further, these aren't taxpayer dollars. Tornado damages are generally paid for by private homeowners insurance.
 
True, but it isn't particularly difficult to make houses tornado resistant. You'll notice that they won't do this.

doesn't matter how "resistant" you make a house, if it gets hit by a freaking F5 tornado with 170 MPH winds you'll end up with a bunch of kindling.
 
True, but it isn't particularly difficult to make houses tornado resistant. You'll notice that they won't do this.

Actually, it is nearly impossible to make houses tornado resistant. Making a home tornado-proof is tough - USATODAY.com

Speaking callously from ignorance, about a disaster that killed almost a hundred people, is almost inexcusable.

You're lucky to live in Wyoming, which hasn't fallen prey to much in the way of natural disasters (aside from forest fires) for decades. But, your living conditions are unique. You live in one of the only states in the U.S. that isn't prone to earthquakes, fires, tornadoes, and hurricanes. That is not the norm.

I understand, as a Florida resident, that my house could be wiped out by a tornado at any point. They've hit very close to me. We can't have a basement, we are at sea level. The only solution is to build a steel tornado room into my garage, at the cost of around $5k. I also am at risk of hurricane damage, but I have insurance for that, though my private insurance company just cancelled my insurance, as of August, because they prefer not to write policies in Florida anymore, because of the hurricanes. My area isn't particularly hurricane-prone, I'm about 80 miles from the coast and in a low-lying area sheltered by large hills, but that doesn't really matter to insurance companies who are reacting to risk.

WHat would you suggest that Floridians do, when we can't get homeowner's insurance? Move out of the state and abandon it entirely? That's a realistic solution. /sarcasm
 
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True, but it isn't particularly difficult to make houses tornado resistant. You'll notice that they won't do this.

Are you for realz dawg?

You cannot make a house Tornado Resistant without... oh, burying it under ground, into a mountain... making a solid concrete block with armored window covers...

Seriously, people say the most amazing things.
 
Concrete construction.

I spent two weeks in Tuscaloosa after the APR 27 tornadoes there. I saw hundreds of steel and concrete contructions that had been reduced to rubble. I saw a freakin storm shelter that had been literally sucked out of the ground.
 
doesn't matter how "resistant" you make a house, if it gets hit by a freaking F5 tornado with 170 MPH winds you'll end up with a bunch of kindling.

F5? Hell any F1 direct strike would ruin most homes as they are.
 
And they're going to put the exact same houses in the exact same places, on the taxpayer's dime, and everyone's going to be truly astounded when this happens again.

What are people supposed to do? Move out of tornado alley entirely?
 
I spent two weeks in Tuscaloosa after the APR 27 tornadoes there. I saw hundreds of steel and concrete contructions that had been reduced to rubble. I saw a freakin storm shelter that had been literally sucked out of the ground.

Exactly. Some monster ropes cannot be protected against, you just pray you aren't in it's path.

go hit up live leak... no here, check this out:

LiveLeak.com - New Footage of Tuscaloosa Tornado

Some of the best, close up, STUPID to take... video of the Tuscaloosa Tornado
 
What are people supposed to do? Move out of tornado alley entirely?

Evidently they should make "Tornado Resistant" homes. Ya know, go down to your local Ace Hardware and pick up the kit, it's only $19.95...
 
Evidently they should make "Tornado Resistant" homes. Ya know, go down to your local Ace Hardware and pick up the kit, it's only $19.95...

I was just thinking how funny it is...I lived in Michigan for a few years and up there they don't practice tornado drills. If a tornado watch is issued (maybe once a year) they just send all of the kids home. Up there, almost every house has a basement almost completely below ground level, weather tight (due to snow melt), so if there's a watch out most people just trek down to the basement and hang out until the storm passes, terrified that a tornado will hit any time.

In Texas, meanwhile...we have multiple tornado drills in school every year. If a warning comes through you've got to "duck n cover", but they aren't sending you home for any reason. Then, if we're home, we'll stand outside on the porch and watch the storm roll through. When the siren goes off we'll watch for the wind to die, at which point we might go into an interior room with a blanket or mattress. If you're at a retail facility they'll advise that you stay away from the windows, but otherwise it's business as usual. The only exception I've experienced was working at the mall, when they wanted to escort everybody into the underground tunnels.
 
I was just thinking how funny it is...I lived in Michigan for a few years and up there they don't practice tornado drills. If a tornado watch is issued (maybe once a year) they just send all of the kids home. Up there, almost every house has a basement almost completely below ground level, weather tight (due to snow melt), so if there's a watch out most people just trek down to the basement and hang out until the storm passes, terrified that a tornado will hit any time.

In Texas, meanwhile...we have multiple tornado drills in school every year. If a warning comes through you've got to "duck n cover", but they aren't sending you home for any reason. Then, if we're home, we'll stand outside on the porch and watch the storm roll through. When the siren goes off we'll watch for the wind to die, at which point we might go into an interior room with a blanket or mattress. If you're at a retail facility they'll advise that you stay away from the windows, but otherwise it's business as usual. The only exception I've experienced was working at the mall, when they wanted to escort everybody into the underground tunnels.

Different soil/conditions. You can't just put a basement into any type of ground.
 
I would not suggest making the entire home tornado resistant, just one particular room, large enough to contain the family for a couple of hours. Be it in the basement, or a large closet
 
Different soil/conditions. You can't just put a basement into any type of ground.

You especially can't sink a basement when you live at sea level (and we both do, I think). Our water table is maybe 3 feet down from the surface, so a basement would quickly turn into a swimming hole.
 
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