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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That doesn't matter, because the WAP still applies.
    Is NATO subject to WPA?

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If Congress doesn't vote on authorization, then Obama doesn't have authorization, by default. Vote, or no vote, if Congress doesn't authorize him to continue operations, then he will be in violation of the War Powers Act if he were to proceed with any operations that may be going on.
    Obama has officially requested their decision for our continued participation in the NATO action, if they decide to take the cowardly route and not officially express their approval or disapproval, it simply means they do not have an opinion either way as far as I have been able to determine.
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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Is NATO subject to WPA?
    That is the question:

    By Friday, the administration’s legal team is likely to announce that the clock stopped ticking on April 1 — the date when NATO “took the lead” in the bombing campaign. Since NATO is running the show, the argument will go, the War Powers Act no longer applies, and the president doesn’t have to go back to Congress after all.

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    A NATO, rather than unilateral, action does not relive the CinC of his responsibilities under the WPA, and does not modify the substance of The Obama's statement.
    I've not seen proof of your opinion there.
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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Nothing requires a vote.
    I would have thought the dignity of not being seen as a coward by not placing a public vote for the record would have been enough for them to have voted by now. So far, only a few individuals have had the guts to take a stand on their position.
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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Is NATO subject to WPA?
    No, but American units that participate in NATO operations are.

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Obama has officially requested their decision for our continued participation in the NATO action, if they decide to take the cowardly route and not officially express their approval or disapproval, it simply means they do not have an opinion either way as far as I have been able to determine.
    Actually, if they don't authorize further operations, all combat operations must cease and desist within 30 days.

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Actually, if they don't authorize further operations, all combat operations must cease and desist within 30 days.
    Thanks for your opinion!
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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Thanks for your opinion!
    That's not my opinion.

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's not my opinion.
    Please link me to the court decision that ruled as you state on this matter.

    And why do you think Congress has not taken a stand on our participation in Libya over the last two months?
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