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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What if Congress doesn't want to vote on whether to participate in the NATO action, which appears to be the case since they have not demanded they vote on it?

    Congress has been invited to decide on continued support for the UN action -

    "President Obama asked congressional leaders late Friday for a resolution of support for continuing the military involvement."



    It will be interesting to see if they decide to vote on it or stay safely non-committal as they have been up to this point!
    Then the President is in violation of the War Powers Act, which has already occurred, provided attacks on Libya continued after Friday.

    According to the President himself, he was in violation of the Constitution when he dropped the first bomb on Libya but he changed his mind about the Constitution once he became President.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Then the President is in violation of the War Powers Act, which has already occurred, provided attacks on Libya continued after Friday.

    According to the President himself, he was in violation of the Constitution when he dropped the first bomb on Libya but he changed his mind about the Constitution once he became President.
    I have heard of no Court, or Congressional statement to lead me believe that he is in violation of the war powers act, can you reference me to just one?

    What is your opinion of Congress for not taking a stand on Libya yet?
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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I have heard of no Court, or Congressional statement to lead me believe that he is in violation of the war powers act, can you reference me to just one?
    Congressmen Condemn Obama Attack on Congressional War Powers

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba
    What is your opinion of Congress for not taking a stand on Libya yet?
    It means that Obama has to cease his military action there within 30 days.
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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba
    I have heard of no Court, or Congressional statement to lead me believe that he is in violation of the war powers act, can you reference me to just one?
    Congressmen Condemn Obama Attack on Congressional War Powers

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba
    What is your opinion of Congress for not taking a stand on Libya yet?
    It means that Obama has to cease his military action there within 30 days.
    The War Powers Act also requires "the President shall terminate any use of United States Armed Forces" within 60 days even after an attack unless Congress authorizes the ongoing war.
    seems pretty cut and dry to me. also seems that some members of Congress (from both parties) have already taken a stand.

    wonder how it plays out....

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Your article mentions no position taken by Congress. It is my understanding that individual Congressmen do no speak for all of Congress. Can you reference me to Congressional statement of opposition as I requested previously?
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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    seems pretty cut and dry to me. also seems that some members of Congress (from both parties) have already taken a stand.

    wonder how it plays out....
    Yes, some individuals have, but as of this date, Congress has not voted on the issue. I am willing to bet they will not either, despite Obama's request that they do so!
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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    So Fox News is in Obama's pocket?



    Prove it.
    The president is the commander-in-chief of the U.S. armed forces. No matter what capacity they operate in, he is bound by the War Powers Act. It's just common sense.

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, some individuals have, but as of this date, Congress has not voted on the issue. I am willing to bet they will not either, despite Obama's request that they do so!
    agreed. Unfortunately, the Republicans appear to be the ones blocking the vote on this.

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    You meant to say 60 days above right? If not, where do you come up with the 90 days?
    Per Khandahar's post. The president must seek Congressional approval at 60 days, or end operation within 30 days after that. 60 + 30 = 90

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    agreed. Unfortunately, the Republicans appear to be the ones blocking the vote on this.
    Why is that do you think?
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