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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's true, but I don't think the strategy of hoping they never get their **** together is a winner. The revolutions we're seeing, now, is another attempt at uniting all the Arab states.
    i agree.......but i'm about done with spending our dollars and our lives in places we don't belong. the me is a never ending clusterf*ck.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i agree.......but i'm about done with spending our dollars and our lives in places we don't belong. the me is a never ending clusterf*ck.
    That was U.S. policy in the 1930's. How did that turn out?

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Example? 123

    Oh, so you were fine with Bush using force in Iraq? Don't make me laugh.

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That was U.S. policy in the 1930's. How did that turn out?
    how are things in afghanistan?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    how are things in afghanistan?

    If it is going badly, no one to blame at this point but Obama. It is after all his war now.


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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If it is going badly, no one to blame at this point but Obama. It is after all his war now.


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    isn't that cute........chiming in, and completely off topic.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That was U.S. policy in the 1930's. How did that turn out?
    Germany's rise and its impact on the balance of power in Europe in the 1930s posed a growing and serious threat to critical U.S. interests and allies in the region. In contrast, the civil war in Libya is of little consequence. Although the rebels might be marginally better than the Gadhafi dictatorship (quite uncertain given their gross political and military incompetence, lack of coherent policy program, recent evidence of their own human rights abuses, etc.,) the outcome won't have a material adverse impact on critical U.S. interests and allies.

    IMO, U.S. foreign policy should be anchored in its interests. Priority should be given where critical interests and allies are at stake. An example would be a more robust policy for dealing with Iran's nuclear activities. Libya, though, simply does not rise anywhere close to that level.

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    isn't that cute........chiming in, and completely off topic.

    Oh I am truly sorry, I could have swore that you injected some snarky little, attitude ridden snipe about how Afghanistan was going. I was just pointing out how at this moment it is the Obama administration that is prosecuting that war, and any set backs, or losses in it are laid at his feet. If being off topic is actually addressing what you said maybe you could talk the moderators into a liblady only section where you can spend the day talking to yourself.

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If it is going badly, no one to blame at this point but Obama. It is after all his war now.


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    Well, as off topic as you may be, allow me. Afghanistan may well have been different today had Bush not lost focus and went on the snipe hunt in Iraq. You may recall that Afghanistan got much worse under Bush over the years. So whiel I don't agree with much of Obama's action in Afghanistan, it isn't like he took over a good situation and drove it down hill. In fact, he rightly brought the focus back to that country. it may well have been too little too late, but i wouldn't absolve Bush of all blame. After all, his actions were his actions.

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    Re: White House: Limited Role in Libya Means No Need to Get Congressional Authorizati

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, Bush needed a declaraion of war and did not get one. His was not a case of working with the UN to stop killing civilians, but an invasion of a country without justification, proper justification. The two don't compare.
    The unanimous vote he got on the UN resolution disagrees with YOUR assessment of justification. Bush got what Congress decided to give him, which is sufficient under the law.
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