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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Comparing being gay to the KKK or polygamy (which is basically a form of female slavery when practised by certain religions) is absurd and offensive.
    I think that was the point. He wasn't trying to make a legitimate point, but be as offensive as possible.

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Seriously, all it is gonna take is one gay kid in Tennessee killing him or herself, and every one of the politicians who supported the bill will no longer have a political career.
    The bill says that homosexuality will NOT be an official part of the curriculum.. Stopping here, not sure if anyone actually read the bill yet? It says nothing about not being able to talk about homosexuality in Tenn schools, only that it will not be a focus for education, like it appears to be in some other states..



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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    The bill says that homosexuality will NOT be an official part of the curriculum.. Stopping here, not sure if anyone actually read the bill yet? It says nothing about not being able to talk about homosexuality in Tenn schools, only that it will not be a focus for education, like it appears to be in some other states..



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    As I read it, a teacher can face penalties for simply mentioning that homosexuality exist in a public school, even if it is outside of official curriculum.

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    It's an irrelevant top to be discussed below 5th grade. Humans begin dating generally around 12 and 13. They probably didn't need to restrict it from middle school.

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by empireofreason View Post
    It's an irrelevant top to be discussed below 5th grade. Humans begin dating generally around 12 and 13. They probably didn't need to restrict it from middle school.
    Young children, even as young as Kindergarten and 1st grade, begin to interact and imitate relationships that they see adults involved in. Attractions begin before 12 or 13, even when I was in elementary school (which was about 20-25 years ago) this was true. I remember having my first "crushes" in 3rd grade. I gave each boy I thought was "cute" a note with their valentine card. Many girls in 4th and 5th grade were already talking about who they wanted to be their boyfriend. It wasn't about sex, but more about doing something that made you seem older. By middle school, many kids are already in boyfriend/girlfriend relationships (not really about sex, but there might be some kissing).
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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    well, remember, Haymarket was a public school teacher, and a union rep for public school teachers. so he would also be the guy implementing this kind of thing.

    not that "consistently fair and nonpartisan" aren't the adjectives that immediately spring to mind when I think of haymarket...
    Would you say those words spring to mind concerning you?

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    People... focus. In general, researchers agree that sexual orientation... ANY sexual orientation is most likely caused by one or some combination of the following factors: genetics, biology, biochemistry/hormones, social environment. Ultimately, there is no proof that sexual orientation is innate or chosen.
    Combination is the word. May like seeing things as either or as well when in fact is more like a spectrum. The closer you are to the middle, no matter teh combination that got you there, the more "choice" you likely have. The further you are the extremes, the less "choice" you have.

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Would you say those words spring to mind concerning you?
    I would say I am not partisan, but rather an ideologue. I can recognize when my side errs and call them on it. But either way the point is moot, my intention is to teach at the collegiate level, not K-8.
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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I would say I am not partisan, but rather an ideologue. I can recognize when my side errs and call them on it. But either way the point is moot, my intention is to teach at the collegiate level, not K-8.
    I'm not sure you can, but I would agree that you're an ideologue. What do you intend to teach?

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