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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Point is moot. Kindergartners through 8th grade shouldn't be taught sex. I'm in favor of the bill, and I think all non-academic matter should stay out of school.
    I don't read that as what anyone is suggesting teaching. In fact, I think it is a huge leap to even suggest that anyone is planning on teaching homosexuality or sex at all.

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I think Godwin's law applies here and you lose the debate hazlnut. Hyperbolic accusations of homophobia, in an attempt to silence and/or marginalize those with whom you disagree, is akin to calling them a nazi or a commie or a homo etc.

    You lose.
    I cannot discern whether you're being sarcastic or not.

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    we have schools for educating our kids, not socializing them. that is the job of the family and the community. in particular if we are going to make it difficult for parents and children to escape a particular school system then we have no business trying to impose solutions via the curriculum and presentation of material on controversial subjects such as the one under discussion. that is a way to guarantee backlash, including the law that kickstarted this discussion.
    Not sure what you mean by socializing them, as socialization is a by product no matter what the curriculum is. However, as homosexuality exists, to talk about the world as it is is not out of the releam of education. If we have a student who has two mommies, or two daddies, and we do have that, suggesting that we discuss that openly and in a way that fosters understanding is education. Ignroing it is the opposite of education.

    Frankly, a closed minded, hateful, few who foster things like this law is far more harmful than allowing free discourse, even among younger people. It won't be the same kind of disciurse, rathe rudamentary to be sure, you know, Jane has tqo mom's, should we tease her? That type of thing. Which is not teaching homosexuality in the schools, which frankly no one really does.

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I think Godwin's law applies here and you lose the debate hazlnut. Hyperbolic accusations of homophobia, in an attempt to silence and/or marginalize those with whom you disagree, is akin to calling them a nazi or a commie or a homo etc.

    You lose.
    Fail.

    You've read nothing I said about the more subtle forms of homophobia, causes, actions etc.

    You're attempt to marginalize me with a 'Law' you yourself don't understand is pretty pathetic.

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I cannot discern whether you're being sarcastic or not.
    No, I am not being sarcastic at all.

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    No, elementary schools should not teach tolerance. They should have strict rules that are strictly enforced.

    Elementary aged children do not need to be taught why the rules are there, they just need to know what the rules are and what the consequences are for breaking them.
    So, tolerance is not a rule?

    A Golden Rule?

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Fail.

    You've read nothing I said about the more subtle forms of homophobia, causes, actions etc.

    You're attempt to marginalize me with a 'Law' you yourself don't understand is pretty pathetic.
    Feel free to educate me hazlnut. Explain how calling someone a homophobe is different than comparing them to Hitler or calling them a Nazi.

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    It was intended as a spoof. The homophobe and hateful gets tossed around everytime someone disagree with a homosexual want.
    A very homophobic and somewhat ignorant statement.

    I support tolerance, and teaching tolerance, not hate.

    This law, despite the idiot Tenn crapkickers spin that done wrote it, is about intolerance towards homosexuals. It is about homophobia.

    "Let not the word 'Gay' be spoken apon them who might like to touch penises in little boys room, lest they be indoctrinated into the wicked life style of anal sex..."

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    So, tolerance is not a rule?

    A Golden Rule?
    No, tolerance is not a rule. Tolerance is a moral belief.

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    Re: Tenn. Senate OKs ban on teaching of homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    A very homophobic and somewhat ignorant statement.

    I support tolerance, and teaching tolerance, not hate.

    This law, despite the idiot Tenn crapkickers spin that done wrote it, is about intolerance towards homosexuals. It is about homophobia.

    "Let not the word 'Gay' be spoken apon them who might like to touch penises in little boys room, lest they be indoctrinated into the wicked life style of anal sex..."
    I didn’t see that part in the bill. Your hyperbolic rhetoric is amusing though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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