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    Re: Secret service questions teen without parents being present

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluespade View Post
    Law enforcement agencies still have laws and guidelines to follow, they had no right to question a minor without parents being present.
    In some cases they actually can question a child without a parent present.

    Anything the child said would likely be inadmissible in court, but the agent probably never had any interest in pressing charges in the first place. He was just verifying that it was actually a child making the facebook post and not some al-qaeda member with a child's photo on his facebook page.
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    Re: Secret service questions teen without parents being present

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluespade View Post
    Law enforcement agencies still have laws and guidelines to follow, they had no right to question a minor without parents being present.
    Why not?

    What if this was a child of one of the 9/11 attackers? In retrospect - if one of them had a child, their child said something that hinted at a possible issue happenening, and we did nothing - then that would have been wrapped up in the 9/11 investigatoin, report - and no one would be giving a **** about whether or not the kid's parents were 'there' - instead, people would be wondering why no one looked into anything.

    I'm sorry - but parents aren't always the best people ot have present because parents aren't perfect.

    But having an investigator alone with a child isn't wise, either. So I do feel that if a parent isn't preferred to be present because he/she might be a concern then a human-services or other some such individual should be present to ensure that the child's rights aren't being trampled in the process.
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    Re: Secret service questions teen without parents being present

    Umm, your far fetched scenario still isn't a good excuse to give law enforcement an excuse to tread on a citizens civil liberties. Why people like you make excuses for our government to discard all regard for our laws completely baffles me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Why not?

    What if this was a child of one of the 9/11 attackers? In retrospect - if one of them had a child, their child said something that hinted at a possible issue happenening, and we did nothing - then that would have been wrapped up in the 9/11 investigatoin, report - and no one would be giving a **** about whether or not the kid's parents were 'there' - instead, people would be wondering why no one looked into anything.

    I'm sorry - but parents aren't always the best people ot have present because parents aren't perfect.

    But having an investigator alone with a child isn't wise, either. So I do feel that if a parent isn't preferred to be present because he/she might be a concern then a human-services or other some such individual should be present to ensure that the child's rights aren't being trampled in the process.

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    Re: Secret service questions teen without parents being present

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluespade View Post
    Umm, your far fetched scenario still isn't a good excuse to give law enforcement an excuse to tread on a citizens civil liberties. Why people like you make excuses for our government to discard all regard for our laws completely baffles me.
    What - terrorists and people who might want to kill the president CAN'T possibly have kids or something?

    Of course they can.

    Meanwhile - a crazed mother murdered here 6 year old son and dumped his body on the roadside in Maine to be found by passerby's.
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    Re: Secret service questions teen without parents being present

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    What - terrorists and people who might want to kill the president CAN'T possibly have kids or something?

    Of course they can.
    And this has to do with law enforcement disregarding civil liberties, how? Your "what if" senarios are comical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Meanwhile - a crazed mother murdered here 6 year old son and dumped his body on the roadside in Maine to be found by passerby's.
    So all parents want to murder their children, and shouldn't be present when law enforcement interrogates their children? Wow, you got some brilliant logic going on.

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    Re: Secret service questions teen without parents being present

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Why not?

    What if this was a child of one of the 9/11 attackers? In retrospect - if one of them had a child, their child said something that hinted at a possible issue happenening, and we did nothing - then that would have been wrapped up in the 9/11 investigatoin, report - and no one would be giving a **** about whether or not the kid's parents were 'there' - instead, people would be wondering why no one looked into anything.

    I'm sorry - but parents aren't always the best people ot have present because parents aren't perfect.

    But having an investigator alone with a child isn't wise, either. So I do feel that if a parent isn't preferred to be present because he/she might be a concern then a human-services or other some such individual should be present to ensure that the child's rights aren't being trampled in the process.
    If the child had a 9/11 terrorist as a parent then the interests of the child should still be represented by a guardian ad litem.

    Usually, the parents are the guardians of a child but when a parent is unavailable or unfeasible a court can appoint a guardian ad litem to the child. All people, regardless of whether they are a terrorist or not, has a right to due process in this country. This includes children too. And because the youth of a child may mean they do not understand all their rights and liberties, they require a guardian to act in their best interests.
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    Re: Secret service questions teen without parents being present

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    What - terrorists and people who might want to kill the president CAN'T possibly have kids or something?

    Of course they can.

    Meanwhile - a crazed mother murdered here 6 year old son and dumped his body on the roadside in Maine to be found by passerby's.
    And none of these things have anything to do with the issues concerning the incident that is the topic of this thread.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Secret service questions teen without parents being present

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    If the child had a 9/11 terrorist as a parent then the interests of the child should still be represented by a guardian ad litem.

    Usually, the parents are the guardians of a child but when a parent is unavailable or unfeasible a court can appoint a guardian ad litem to the child. All people, regardless of whether they are a terrorist or not, has a right to due process in this country. This includes children too. And because the youth of a child may mean they do not understand all their rights and liberties, they require a guardian to act in their best interests.
    Which has what to do with just asking the kid some questions? It isn't like the kid has been charged with anything, nor is anything he said being used against him or someone else in charging them with a crime. If either of these things happen, then I expect that the kid's "interview" answers should not be permissible as evidence, since he didn't have a guardian/parent with him during the questioning, just as they would for a suspect who was being interviewed who didn't have his rights read to him.
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    Re: Secret service questions teen without parents being present

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    you dont question my child without me being there.
    period

    and its interesting that both posts so far mention a political affiliation having something to do with it
    I don't think it works that way, at least it didn't when Ken Starr had a child taken out of class to be questioned. I suppose there should be some guideline, like a counselor present as a witnesses.
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