"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"
Cicero Marcus Tullius
I would prefer politicians duke this out when actually approving the budget. That needs to happen.
Last edited by drz-400; 05-16-11 at 09:39 PM.
Ok, so tell me what the landscape looks like after we increase taxes on "the rich", on Corporations, and they all pick up and get the hell out of dodge?
Aren't you really promoting a class warfare kind of society, that would see reduced standard of living here in the US so that your vision of social, and economic justice, what ever that is attained?
Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
Alexis de Tocqueville
One must crack a few eggs to make an omelet. That said, the debt limit should not be raised. I mean why have a "debt ceiling" if it can be raised all the time? We have spent enough. Time to buckle down boys.
Matthew 10:34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
What is interesting is how even the day to day GOP posturing ripples through the market. This effects all of us.
The GOP plays games and postures for their base, meanwhile, portfolios, retirement funds, and POWERFUL hedge funds, take a hit.
I think we need more hearings like the one with the Oil Companies. All Fed Tax Subsidies to Fortune 500's need to be examined. What are we, the tax payer, getting in return for our investment? If a company getting subsidies or some other type of tax incentives is not producing 1) Jobs, 2)New technology, 3)Better goods / services at a lower price... Then what is the point?
A real Tea Party - not the corporate funded joke that it has become - but a REAL TEA PARTY would demand to have all corporate welfare examined in terms of what are we getting in return.
The US needs to be more concerned with lowering the debt. Raising the ceiling is not going to accomplish that. As it stands, I dont think politicians on either side are truly working to lower it enough. Most politicians are more concerned with being reelected or making the other side look bad than they are fixing problems. 2 things need to happen for our country to get back on track economically. First the US needs to cut spending to reduce the debt, and secondly we need to be bringing more money in. As Americans we have made doing business here and especially from here a hassle. One that many companies are choosing not to do. We need to bring business back. I know its an obvious point but one that is often overlooked. We need more people paying taxes. And more importantly, we need more big companies paying taxes.