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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The worst part is that whomever points out the most basic flaws in hiring arms is portrayed as being either anti-military or anti-corporation. I find that it's all part of the whitewashing surrounding the word 'mercenary'. They've gone from being universally known as non-patriotic (or downright disloyal) to "defenders" and "contractors". A mercenary in today's context is a trained gun for hire. Nothing more, nothing less.
    Mercenaries serve their purpose. I'm not morally opposed to hiring them and I have respect for the profession, like I have respect for any warrior. I am just growing increasingly concerned with our government outsourcing our national security objectives to organizations that do not operate under the direct authority and supervision of our military. It's like prison guards. They perform an absolutely essential service, but any sensible government is going to keep those functions in-house.

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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Mercenaries serve their purpose. I'm not morally opposed to hiring them and I have respect for the profession, like I have respect for any warrior. I am just growing increasingly concerned with our government outsourcing our national security objectives to organizations that do not operate under the direct authority and supervision of our military. It's like prison guards. They perform an absolutely essential service, but any sensible government is going to keep those functions in-house.
    i have no respect for people who kill others for a paycheck, unless, of course, they are charged with protecting our country. mercenaries and the culture that they create are dangerous.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i have no respect for people who kill others for a paycheck, unless, of course, they are charged with protecting our country. mercenaries and the culture that they create are dangerous.
    Well, it depends

    If I want to impress a christian girl with a nice upbringing, I'll tell her, I'm a contractor...but if she's a wild and crazy kinda gal, I'll her...I'm a merc.

    Seriously - If I'm hired to perform a mil Op to unseat or eliminate an African dictator

    I'm the bad guy or the good guy? Also, I'm going in with *no official support* or legal standing.

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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Well, it depends

    If I want to impress a christian girl with a nice upbringing, I'll tell her, I'm a contractor...but if she's a wild and crazy kinda gal, I'll her...I'm a merc.

    Seriously - If I'm hired to perform a mil Op to unseat or eliminate an African dictator

    I'm the bad guy or the good guy? Also, I'm going in with *no official support* or legal standing.
    our military should be conducting our military ops, not civilians. the problem with mercenaries is they are neither good nor bad, but serve to keep our hands clean.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    our military should be conducting our military ops, not civilians. the problem with mercenaries is they are neither good nor bad, but serve to keep our hands clean.
    The US Army gives monetary incentives to keep our people on the battlefield, but a Corp has far better money offers (may or may not - you mileage may vary)

    Do the math

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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Source: The New York Times

    Given Blackwater's involvement with the CIA assassination program and the fact they are tasked with special operations outside the country as well as inside it makes me wonder if this is being used as a sort of continuation of the program.


    Can you link to this please, I think you are full of it.
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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Blackwater, mythological hysterics. /facepalm
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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Gadaffi's paying good money for mercenaries these days, and business is business.

    any evidence he's providing folks to quadaffi? didn't think so.
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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    keep strugglin. everything I wrote is true and ric pretty much put you in your place.
    Everything you wrote is true? I'd be surprised if less than half of it was mental masturbation by what is clearly an ignorant little twit pretending he's something he isn't. Tell us about a single state that has ever needed mercenaries to defend itself and is now standing?

    given that his dynasty lasted all of 15 years - making it the shortest in Chinese history - I'm going to go ahead and say maybe not as such.
    I have trouble believing you're doing a masters when your reading comprehension is equivalent to that of a 12 grader. The point of uniting China was not to maintain a single dynasty. It was to end political instability caused by uncontrollable states (ie establishing a state). This is model still followed today even by the supposedly Chinese 'communist regime'. Seriously do they teach you ANY military history? Or did you pick up even a single book on the matter? Establishing a dynasty and establishing a state are not synonymous. Dynasties do not come as a result of states and how they're founded but how the ruling body is structured. The foundation of a state can be solid (correlating nationalism with warfare, patriotism with the sovereign) and yet the sovereign can be deposed while the state remains. If anything, the innerworkings of a sovereign's institution are only related to the states' well being as far as politics and warfare are concerned. With that being said, your assinine suggestion that Sun Tzu's teachings which are on establishing a state did not work for the guy who ended up founding what is the only state with nearly 4,000 thousand years of continuous history is kind of RIDICULOUS.
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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    any evidence he's providing folks to quadaffi? didn't think so.
    I think he was talking about the Iberian mercenaries.
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