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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    THAT is certainly true, and the biggest single argument against doing it. I might happily take 40K off that number and work stateside.

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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    THAT is certainly true, and the biggest single argument against doing it. I might happily take 40K off that number and work stateside.
    Yeah, its hard on family members

    I kinda threw a q at Manc about mercs, but I got no reply. Actually the initial question is rather interesting

    For all of you out there

    A contractor is an individual being paid to carry out defensive security Ops for a local work force. Use of force is applicable in only certain situations against specific threats.

    A merc is an individual being paid to conduct offensive Ops against any target the employer chooses.

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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Anyone who has ever written a single book on warfare knows that it's unwise - or for lack of a better word foolish - to hire arms. The US should do away with such a destructive activity.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Anyone who has ever written a single book on warfare knows that it's unwise - or for lack of a better word foolish - to hire arms. The US should do away with such a destructive activity.
    Destructive activity? lol

    Make up your mind.....

    Are you hiring me to kill people or are you hiring me to keep people from getting killed?

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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    that's why we should get rid of mall cops?

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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Security contractors are ONLY defensive. They dont seek out the enemy. They react, respond, and retreat in order to protect their client/client interests. They take all neccesary measures to defend themselves, but never act on the OFFENSIVE. IF people are killed/wounded as a byproduct of that, that is hardly murder- it is simply defense of self/3rd person/property and is unavoidable.

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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Anyone who has ever written a single book on warfare knows that it's unwise - or for lack of a better word foolish - to hire arms. The US should do away with such a destructive activity.
    It's downright foolish to hire barbarians to defend you when your biggest problem is the barbarians outside the gates.

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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Security contractors are ONLY defensive. They dont seek out the enemy. They react, respond, and retreat in order to protect their client/client interests. They take all neccesary measures to defend themselves, but never act on the OFFENSIVE. IF people are killed/wounded as a byproduct of that, that is hardly murder- it is simply defense of self/3rd person/property and is unavoidable.
    EXACTLY. that's why they're EVIL. just like GEORGE BU$HITLER!!!!

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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that's why we should get rid of mall cops?
    Can you tell us why mall cops aren't given guns? I'll give you a clue, they're not paid to defend a mall. They're paid to give the appearance of force. Seriously, instead of posting pictures of Ben Franklin, why don't you try reading Sun Tzu or Machiavelli or maybe even Locke? That may help you not come up with ridiculously ignorant questions.

    XIII. Of Auxiliary, Mixed, and National Arms. Machiavelli, Niccolo. 1909-14. The Prince. The Harvard Classics

    Let him, therefore, who would deprive himself of every chance of success, have recourse to auxiliaries, these being far more dangerous than mercenary arms, bringing ruin with them ready made. For they are united, and wholly under the control of their own officers; whereas, before mercenaries, even after gaining a victory, can do you hurt, longer time and better opportunities are needed; because, as they are made up of separate companies, raised and paid by you, he whom you place in command cannot at once acquire such authority over them as will be injurious to you. In short, with mercenaries your greatest danger is from their inertness and cowardice, with auxiliaries from their valour. Wise Princes, therefore, have always eschewed these arms, and trusted rather to their own, and have preferred defeat with the latter to victory with the former, counting that as no true victory which is gained by foreign aid.
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    Re: Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    EXACTLY. that's why they're EVIL. just like GEORGE BU$HITLER!!!!
    Defense contractors have gone on the offensive...

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