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Georgia governor signs controversial anti-illegal immigration law - CNN.com

Atlanta (CNN) -- Despite protests outside his office and boycott threats, Georgia's governor signed into law Friday one of the toughest anti-illegal immigration measures enacted by an individual state.

The measure, which Gov. Nathan Deal inked about a month after it cleared the Republican-dominated Georgia Legislature, allows law enforcement officers to ask about immigration status when questioning suspects in certain criminal investigations.

HB 87 also imposes prison sentences of up to one year and fines of up to $1,000 for people who knowingly transport illegal immigrants during the commission of a crime. It also asserts that workers convicted of using fake identification to get jobs could be sentenced to 15 years in prison and fined $250,000.

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randel said:
Georgia governor signs controversial anti-illegal immigration law - CNN.com

Atlanta (CNN) -- Despite protests outside his office and boycott threats, Georgia's governor signed into law Friday one of the toughest anti-illegal immigration measures enacted by an individual state.

The measure, which Gov. Nathan Deal inked about a month after it cleared the Republican-dominated Georgia Legislature, allows law enforcement officers to ask about immigration status when questioning suspects in certain criminal investigations.

HB 87 also imposes prison sentences of up to one year and fines of up to $1,000 for people who knowingly transport illegal immigrants during the commission of a crime. It also asserts that workers convicted of using fake identification to get jobs could be sentenced to 15 years in prison and fined $250,000.

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That's a good start.
 
randel said:
Georgia governor signs controversial anti-illegal immigration law - CNN.com

Atlanta (CNN) -- Despite protests outside his office and boycott threats, Georgia's governor signed into law Friday one of the toughest anti-illegal immigration measures enacted by an individual state.

The measure, which Gov. Nathan Deal inked about a month after it cleared the Republican-dominated Georgia Legislature, allows law enforcement officers to ask about immigration status when questioning suspects in certain criminal investigations.

HB 87 also imposes prison sentences of up to one year and fines of up to $1,000 for people who knowingly transport illegal immigrants during the commission of a crime. It also asserts that workers convicted of using fake identification to get jobs could be sentenced to 15 years in prison and fined $250,000.

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I am glad Georgia signed such a law. I will say the same thing that I said when Oklahoma enacted its anti-illegal immigration laws, hopefully other states follow suite.

At the same time I am totally shocked that CNN actually called it a "anti-illegal immigration law" instead of "anti-immigration law.".This has to be a first for a liberal network regarding the illegal immigration issue.
 
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Excellent News

My county is the worst in the state by the numbers, and the numbers don't lie believe me. They basically took over all entry level jobs for high schoolers and made crime rates increase.
 
Get ready for the claims of Racism by those ignorant people who don't care about jobs or the cost of illegals to everyone.


I suggest that everyone who understands the issues hold your ground and don't back off no matter how much the truly Anti-Americans call you names.


The Constitution is clear in Article 4 Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.


Obama refused to live up to his oath of office and enforce the Law.
 
15 years for wanting to work, why not execution for smoking pot?
 
But does nothing to punish employers? :( missed opportunity.
 
cpwill said:
But does nothing to punish employers? :( missed opportunity.
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agreed...need to punish employers for hiring illegals is a definite must.
 
SE102 said:
15 years for wanting to work, why not execution for smoking pot?
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Tell that to the people who have had their ID's stolen and end up owing thousands of dollars to the IRS on unclaimed wages.

Besides 15 years is the max and probably reserved for repeated offenders. 15 years on non violent crimes in the US equals about 3-4 years actual serve time if they behave.
 
jamesrage said:
Sometimes you got to take what you can get.
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True, and this is an improvement over nothing. But employers are the single biggest target that we need to focus on, next to actually securing the border itself.
 
randel said:
HB 87 also imposes prison sentences of up to one year and fines of up to $1,000 for people who knowingly transport illegal immigrants during the commission of a crime. It also asserts that workers convicted of using fake identification to get jobs could be sentenced to 15 years in prison and fined $250,000.
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I absolultey support Georgia in their decision to enact their own laws regarding residency, but to me, these two parts are completely ass-backwards.

One year and $1,000 dollars for being a getaway driver during a crime or being a smuggler compared to 15 years and $250,000 for using a fake ID to get a job does nt make any sense. ERgardless of someone's position about illegal immigrants, being a smuggler or getaway driver is still a worse crime than using a fake ID to obtain work.

But it is Georgia's decision, and i fully support their right to make these laws, even if I absolutley disagree with the law perosnally.
 
Tucker Case said:
I absolultey support Georgia in their decision to enact their own laws regarding residency, but to me, these two parts are completely ass-backwards.

One year and $1,000 dollars for being a getaway driver during a crime or being a smuggler compared to 15 years and $250,000 for using a fake ID to get a job does nt make any sense. ERgardless of someone's position about illegal immigrants, being a smuggler or getaway driver is still a worse crime than using a fake ID to obtain work.

But it is Georgia's decision, and i fully support their right to make these laws, even if I absolutley disagree with the law perosnally.
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you may have a point, that does seem to be a tad bass-ackwards...there needs to be a super strong fine/penalty for those who knowingly employ illegals as well, alot more than a slap on the wrist.
 
randel said:
you may have a point, that does seem to be a tad bass-ackwards...there needs to be a super strong fine/penalty for those who knowingly employ illegals as well, alot more than a slap on the wrist.
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Agreed. Even though I'm openly a "pro-illegal" type, I realize that the only way to really address the "problem" is to create legislation that takes the "demand" for illegal immigrants out of the equation.

It's really an issue of supply and demand, when you get down to it. The supply of illegal immigrants is always going to be high. They are already willing to take huge risks to get here and find work, so adding another risk to the mix doesn't really do anything to curb illegal immigration.

The issue is that the demand for illegal immigrant labor is also high because hiring illegal immigrants is incentivized by the profits of cheap labor coupled with the minimal risks associated with doing so.

Adding a massive layer of risk to the venture could seriously curb the demand for such labor, and ultimately that would decrease the supply of illegal immigrants because the rewards they receive would no longer be worth the risks they are already taking.
 
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randel said:
Georgia governor signs controversial anti-illegal immigration law - CNN.com

Atlanta (CNN) -- Despite protests outside his office and boycott threats, Georgia's governor signed into law Friday one of the toughest anti-illegal immigration measures enacted by an individual state.

The measure, which Gov. Nathan Deal inked about a month after it cleared the Republican-dominated Georgia Legislature, allows law enforcement officers to ask about immigration status when questioning suspects in certain criminal investigations.

HB 87 also imposes prison sentences of up to one year and fines of up to $1,000 for people who knowingly transport illegal immigrants during the commission of a crime. It also asserts that workers convicted of using fake identification to get jobs could be sentenced to 15 years in prison and fined $250,000.

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I don't think this will solve anything. More of a PR little stint.

The truly way to fix the immigration problem is to make Mexico better. We need to take a hard, hard line with the Mexican government and the families...(I say families because almost all Latin countries are that way - controlled by a few families) and make them do more to help their own people and to accept our help with our conditions.
 
I agree that employers who knowingly hire illegals should face a stiff penalty. Problem nowadays though is many illegals have counterfeit social security cards. If US gov would do its main job which is to secure the borders this wouldn’t be an issue for employers and states to deal with.
 
Is it also 15 years for minors who use fake ID to get into clubs, buy cigarettes, or buy alcohol?
 
The sad thing is this isn't nearly as harsh as many other foreign countries immigration laws, but its definitely a start in this f**kin country!
 
cpwill said:
True, and this is an improvement over nothing. But employers are the single biggest target that we need to focus on, next to actually securing the border itself.
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I agree.So this should be the next step. By enacting these punishments against illegals it will make it easier to enact laws against the traitors who hire illegals.
 
SE102 said:
15 years for wanting to work, why not execution for smoking pot?
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The penalties are laid out. If you break a law knowing the penalty dont cry later because it got imposed. The simple solution would be not to break the law then you dont really have to worry about the punishment. My only issue with the 15 years is that if we imprison them for 15 years, thats 15 more years they are going to be living off of our tax dollars.
 
muciti said:
The simple solution would be not to break the law then you dont really have to worry about the punishment.
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My guess is that most Illegal immigrants consider the risk of 15 years in prison to be less of a punishment than still living in squalor in their countries of origin.
 
I agree with this law and I think we should be doing more.
 
The NERVE...the unmittigated GALL of these states...taking legislative measures to ensure federal law is enforced. Unfreqinbelievable...
 
VanceMack said:
The NERVE...the unmittigated GALL of these states...taking legislative measures to ensure federal law is enforced. Unfreqinbelievable...
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See, I support this because it should never be federal law to begin with. I believe that the State's should be the masters of their own residency laws. We don't need a nanny state telling us who can or cannot be our neighbors.
 
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