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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    conservatives tend to see us vs them as the USA vs our enemies

    liberals tend to see Us vs them in class warfare terms such as the Libs (even rich ones) constant attempts to demonize "the rich" "oil companies" "wall street" "bankers" CEOS etc in order to win the support of the envious, the unlucky and the untalented
    whatever helps you sleep at night

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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He's talking about American Conservatives. Bashing the United States is his style.

    At least the, "them", we talk about isn't the American people.
    I don't have a problem with people inside or outside of the United States criticizing Americans anymore than I have a problem with Americans criticizing those in other countries. Both groups can be wrong in their criticisms, but in Pete's case, I think he summed up the loudest part of the American conservative movement pretty well.

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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Able to bring him in alive, or not, I don't think we should have brought him in alive. Obama would have let him have his Miranda Rights and allowed him to lawyer up on the taxpayers's dime and it would have been a complete circus.
    I have no doubt about that, apdst....., but theres something here that doesn't jive. I think it would have been better to dig deeper... to go beyond UBL (alive). Just who (or what group) was behind UBL's campaign against the US (both in the US and abroad)

    I say *in the US* because we do have enemies inside the US

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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    He wasn't talking about Americans, he was talking about conservatives and a lot of Americans agree with him. I, for one, agree with he fact that conservatives thrive on conflict and enemies. The "us vs. them" mentality is one of the foundations of conservative rhetoric.
    You think the Conservatives in America, for example, have more serious and unruly demonstrations than those on the Left? Who do you believe the conservative enemies to be?

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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You think the Conservatives in America, for example, have more serious and unruly demonstrations than those on the Left? Who do you believe the conservative enemies to be?
    I didn't say that. I just think PeteEU's characterization of conservatism is accurate. Conservative enemies? I don't know, but xenophobia does seem to pour out of the conservative movement.

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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Honestly, I support President Obama in witholding the images of Osama bin Laden. To reiterate something a teacher of mine said that I absolutely agree with, I see this act as a very unfortunate happening and a sign of American weakness. We portray ourselves as some great world power, and yet we spend over a decade looking for one man, and when we find him, we merely kill him.

    I realize that what Osama bin Laden did was cruel, and that his death is very symbolic. Nonetheless, I don't think this is something for anyone to be proud of. We shouldn't be having parties about the death Osama bin Laden any more than we did for the victims of 9/11. We should be reflecting on what we are as a nation, and take a moment to realize that there really are no positives to this.

    The victims of 9/11 are dead. The man responsible for those deaths is dead. Now, the Taliban is retaliating and more innocent lives will likely be taken. Is this a good image to you? Because I certainly don't see anything positive in this.

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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I'd like to know is... (with all the multiple WH/CIA versions ) there seems to be a good indication that UBL should have been brought in alive. Maybe battered (leg wound) but none the less alive
    Well ric, no matter how many times you click your magic heels and wish you were in Kansas, he's dead.

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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Well ric, no matter how many times you click your magic heels and wish you were in Kansas, he's dead.
    Then, I guess, we will never know.....the rest of the story

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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Not even the wife who was with him on that fatal night in Abbattabad disputes his death.

    What is there to "manage" here? OBL is dead.
    OBL might be dead, but there are still some who want to create another phoney controversy.
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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    whatever helps you sleep at night
    I sleep well, I am not a parasite who demands others pay for what I want. I also don't think playing americans against americans to win elections is good for the country



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