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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    How can something be both "conservative" and "nonpartisan"?
    You can be fake conservative like Danarhea.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    So has pretty much every Presidential Administration since FOIA came into existence.
    Wasn't Obama supposed to be different?



    With Obama Freedom Of Information Act Requests Denied More Than Bush The Admonition

    We’re not talking about a bunch of right wing outlets outing Obama’s lack of transparency. The Obama Freedom of Information Act debacle was studied by AP, Raw Story, and I found it in the LA Times blogs. This goes to show you most people, even lefties, like for you to mean what you say and say what you mean.

    When analyzing the Obama Freedom of Information Act correlation, Ed Morrissey at Hot Air finds that Bush denied requests at a rate of 9.6% while Obama denies requests 15.9% of the time. Not only that, but there are 10% fewer requests by the press now than when Bush was in office.
    Because everybody just knew Bush was hiding something; it’s a different story all together now, Obama told us he would be transparent so obviously he is.
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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    By all means, Barb, start a new thread on it, if you think it's worthy of discussion.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    How can something be both "conservative" and "nonpartisan"?
    Easy, not all Consevatives are republicans.
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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Easy, not all Consevatives are republicans.
    The words "partisan" and "nonpartisan" don't necessarily refer to political parties, however.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Why not? Whats to hide?

    Everything was done by the book, right?
    I dont care if it wasnt done by the book...bin laden dead makes me happy

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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    By all means, Barb, start a new thread on it, if you think it's worthy of discussion.
    Oh, I'm sorry. I see now that the topic is the Conservative Non-partisan group Judicial Watch. I'll try to stay on topic.


    Bush administration misleads public on immigration

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/story/...tion-docs-show
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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatSandeno View Post
    These people will also be the first ones to cry "woe is me" when innocent American civilians die because of a terrorist attack.
    Terrorists have been trying to kill Americans for a couple of decades now and photos of one of their dead leaders won't make a any difference one way or the other. In fact it could work as a deterrent, suggesting that the same fate waits for them as well.

    I'd be defending my fellow Americans and their right to freedom of information, transparency if you will, rather than trying to appease some scum bag terrorists. You start down that road to appeasement and it won't end.

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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Terrorists have been trying to kill Americans for a couple of decades now and photos of one of their dead leaders won't make a any difference one way or the other. In fact it could work as a deterrent, suggesting that the same fate waits for them as well.

    I'd be defending my fellow Americans and their right to freedom of information, transparency if you will, rather than trying to appease some scum bag terrorists. You start down that road to appeasement and it won't end.
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    Re: Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Your question assumes that the reason for not releasing the photos has something to do with hiding. It doesn't.

    That said, they will probably be "leaked" eventually.

    I was not going to comment on this thread at all, just like I don't walk into a gay bar and start beating gays up for no reason, but I will set the record straight on this above point....

    Sure it does. Thats why the delay

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