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    Re: Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 80 Dead in Pakistan

    Changing the tenor of the thread, I wonder if people either in this country or abroad but particularly in Muslim countries and especially within Pakistan, still believe that the Pakistani military had nothing to do with harboring OBL?

    Fact: His compound was situated in a residential area with a few mile of a military base.

    Fact: Pakistani military (and intelligence) officials for years have denied helping or harboring OBL.

    Fact: The first retaliatory strike in defense of OBL's death comes not against U.S. targets but against the Pakistani military.

    Anyone find that odd? Personally, I find it very telling. The Pakistan military knew OBL was there and so did the Taliban and quite possible so did members of Al Quada. Why else would the strike against the Pakistani military?

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    Re: Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 80 Dead in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Do you people even realize that I am complimenting Obama's decision to kill this man? Can you read? I called it a wonderful decision.
    I think everyone can read just fine, not just the words that were typed, but they can also read your tone and can read between the not so subtle lines and see that your usage of the word "wonderful" was oozing with sarcasm and that it was intended to be derisive.
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    Re: Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 80 Dead in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    The blood of people who died is on the hands of the terrorist who were involved. The US, nor any country, should let retaliation or threat of retaliation from terrorists influence any decision that is made. Bin Laden included. To be influenced by terrorists or terrorism is bending to the will of these people.
    I bet they say that anything short of continued attacks would be "bending to the will of those people" (referencing us). If we maintain that mentality nobody will win until the other is completely dead. I don't know about you, but I really don't want my children to grow up in a world where we have to discuss elevated threat levels, eye strangers warily on the plane, worry about visiting prominent buildings or using public transport.
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    Re: Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 80 Dead in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Ya know, the one good thing about suicide bombers is that when they're successful there's always one less of them....
    Is the death or one terrorist suicide bomber the worth the lives of 80 innocent people?
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    Re: Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 80 Dead in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Is the death or one terrorist suicide bomber the worth the lives of 80 innocent people?
    I'm about 99% sure I didn't say that. I realize a joking tone is hard to display in text....
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    Re: Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 80 Dead in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    With all due respect, are you insane?
    The Soviets withdrew in 1989. The Taliban didn't form until 1994.

    Why did we go into Afghanistan? What was the mission? Should we still be there? Why?

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    Re: Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 80 Dead in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    The first attack caused by the wonderful decision Obama made to kill bin Laden, rather than try him in court.

    Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 80 Dead in Pakistan - FoxNews.com

    The blood of 80 people is now directly on the hands of our president. Do these idiots even realize that it doesn't exactly further their cause that if one of their own is killed for killing innocent people, that killing more innocent people won't sway people to their side?

    Oh well, looks like the war on terror ain't over yet, is it?
    Are you seriously trying to say Obama is responsible for the deaths caused by the terrorist assholes? That's seriously ****ed up and in no way logically supported.
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    Re: Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 80 Dead in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Changing the tenor of the thread, I wonder if people either in this country or abroad but particularly in Muslim countries and especially within Pakistan, still believe that the Pakistani military had nothing to do with harboring OBL?

    Fact: His compound was situated in a residential area with a few mile of a military base.

    Fact: Pakistani military (and intelligence) officials for years have denied helping or harboring OBL.

    Fact: The first retaliatory strike in defense of OBL's death comes not against U.S. targets but against the Pakistani military.

    Anyone find that odd? Personally, I find it very telling. The Pakistan military knew OBL was there and so did the Taliban and quite possible so did members of Al Quada. Why else would the strike against the Pakistani military?
    I think it is a possibility that the Pakistani government and/or military knew where Osama was hiding.

    However, to examine the counter-arguments:

    (1) I think it's worth pointing out that it took the United States ten years to find him, and I think the United States has more experience and ability to find out where people are than Pakistan does, even in Pakistan.

    (2) The more people that knew, the more likely it would be for the United States to find out.

    (3) Given Pakistan's public stance, I don't see why Osama would trust any Pakistani officials.

    (4) Pakistan was probably the easiest place to attack on short notice.

    (5) If Pakistan really was protecting Obama, you'd think Al Qaida wouldn't want to antagonize such an ally. It's not as if Pakistan gave Osama away, if indeed they were hiding him.

    In any event, it is certainly suspicious.
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    Re: Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 80 Dead in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Do you people even realize that I am complimenting Obama's decision to kill this man? Can you read? I called it a wonderful decision.



    It was specifically stated that it was in direct response to the killing of OBL.
    And? So? How would you have handled it (yes, I'm giggling) so that they would not have reacted adversely. It's more like "THE SKY IS BLUE! DIE, INFIDEL!!"

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    Re: Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 80 Dead in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    The first attack caused by the wonderful decision Obama made to kill bin Laden, rather than try him in court.

    Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 80 Dead in Pakistan - FoxNews.com

    The blood of 80 people is now directly on the hands of our president.Do these idiots even realize that it doesn't exactly further their cause that if one of their own is killed for killing innocent people, that killing more innocent people won't sway people to their side?

    Oh well, looks like the war on terror ain't over yet, is it?
    So, I guess that you think OBL was a great guy huh?

    Also the GWOT ending is about as viable as the May 21st Judgement Day BS occurring.

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    EDIT 2: Changed "March" to "May," correcting the date
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