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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatSandeno View Post
    He felt that the student who was arrested was either treated unfairly or had his rights withheld. Seeing as the article doesn't mention what the student's statement was about but only focuses on blind save-our-flag patriotism, this is speculation.
    That's the problem with symbolism, especially one as old and cliched as burning an American flag. That's what we expect third world Muslims doing, not Americans attending institutes of higher learning.

    It seems that these protesters aren't really very creative in their methods. Perhaps a letter to the editor, or the actual polite exchange of ideas, might be more effective.

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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's the problem with symbolism, especially one as old and cliched as burning an American flag. That's what we expect third world Muslims doing, not Americans attending institutes of higher learning.
    So because you attend an institute of higher learning you aren't supposed to express your beliefs? Or are you only supposed to have a certain set of beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems that these protesters aren't really very creative in their methods. Perhaps a letter to the editor, or the actual polite exchange of ideas, might be more effective.
    Who reads letters to the editor in college? Who even reads the newspaper anymore?

    The second tried a polite exchange of ideas by reading a statement, he was met with chants of "Go to hell" and had trash thrown at him.
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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    goes to show that college kids are on average only slightly more intelligent than the average human being.
    I would question that. Given the nature of these lovely protests and the counter-protests, and the counter-counter protests, and how they are the "in" thing to do on them, I would put that below the average person. They are still growing up, after all.
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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Freedom of speech: "Say/do what you want until I'm offended, then stop".

    You choose to be offended by something. If you're offended by flag burning then don't take part in it. If you're offended by porn then don't watch it. If you're offended by curse words don't attend a sports event or go to a bar on a Friday night. Or, better yet, find out why it is so offensive to you and work out a way to avoid feeling so offended. Try rationalizing. Is the man burning that flag simultaneously telling you that the flag is symbolic of you, and f**k you? Is it necessary that two consenting adults who chose to screw on film be offensive to you? Why? Does it affect your life in any way?

    "I don't agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". To me, that's what the first amendment is about. Without the freedom to say and do as we please under the first amendment we would not be able to offer dissent against government policy, foreign influence, etc. We need it to make sure our desires are heard. Sometimes it's superfulous and unnecessary, but it's amazing that we can do it.
    Tessa...calling someone a ****ing whore is a freedom of speech...right? Now...would it be reasonable to assume that walking up to a woman, getting in her face, and calling her a ****ing whore MIGHT just get someone slapped?

    When Fred Phelps does his monthly God Hates Fags routine...yes...it is a freedom of speech issue. No...that doesnt mean people arent pissed off, aggravated, and motivated to find ways to stop it.

    That this continually is an issue ought to be a fair indicator that it goes beyond a simple freedom of speech matter.

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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The kid has the right to burn a flag (or give an anti-American speech or whatever the case may be). Other kids have the right to chase him around shouting "USA USA!" All's fair.
    I strongly disagree. The kid does not have the right to STEAL a flag and burn it. IMHO, the other kids have a right to kick his ass.
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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I strongly disagree. The kid does not have the right to STEAL a flag and burn it. IMHO, the other kids have a right to kick his ass.
    This kid didn't steal the flag. The other one did.
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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I strongly disagree. The kid does not have the right to STEAL a flag and burn it. IMHO, the other kids have a right to kick his ass.
    I was referring to moron #2, not moron #1, but point taken and I agree.
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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I would question that. Given the nature of these lovely protests and the counter-protests, and the counter-counter protests, and how they are the "in" thing to do on them, I would put that below the average person. They are still growing up, after all.
    The REAL "in" thing is to go get hammered on weekdays. And then somehow still pull off being a straight-A student.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Tessa...calling someone a ****ing whore is a freedom of speech...right? Now...would it be reasonable to assume that walking up to a woman, getting in her face, and calling her a ****ing whore MIGHT just get someone slapped?

    When Fred Phelps does his monthly God Hates Fags routine...yes...it is a freedom of speech issue. No...that doesnt mean people arent pissed off, aggravated, and motivated to find ways to stop it.

    That this continually is an issue ought to be a fair indicator that it goes beyond a simple freedom of speech matter.
    Again, firmly believe you choose to be offended. If somebody calls me an effin' whore then let 'em. Do they know me? As far as that idiot, Phelps. Anybody with access to news media knows this guy isn't right...why allow yourself to be affected by his protests? It's all about choice. They choose to act a fool, I choose to recognize it as such and dismiss it thusly.
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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Again, firmly believe you choose to be offended. If somebody calls me an effin' whore then let 'em. Do they know me? As far as that idiot, Phelps. Anybody with access to news media knows this guy isn't right...why allow yourself to be affected by his protests? It's all about choice. They choose to act a fool, I choose to recognize it as such and dismiss it thusly.
    Fred Phelps is one of the most successful trolls in real-life.

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