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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Burning a flag (to many) goes a little beyond freedom of speech.
    No it doesn't.

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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What do you suppose his 'opposing view' was?
    I would assume that he doesn't hold the flag in as high regard as those who were throwing trash at him and telling him to go to hell.

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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatSandeno View Post
    No it doesn't.
    Dood...what an AWESOME rebuttal. Let me guess...school is out. Fanfreqintastic. We get a fresh crop of...you.

    To many it does.

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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatSandeno View Post
    I would assume that he doesn't hold the flag in as high regard as those who were throwing trash at him and telling him to go to hell.

    So we can never be quite sure of his 'opposing view' because, despite attending University, he is also an inarticulate yahoo.

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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Dood...what an AWESOME rebuttal. Let me guess...school is out. Fanfreqintastic. We get a fresh crop of...you.

    To many it does.

    The SCOTUS disagrees with you. In Texas vs. Johnson the court narrowly decided that:

    The court found that, "Under the circumstances, Johnson's burning of the flag constituted expressive conduct, permitting him to invoke the First Amendment... Occurring as it did at the end of a demonstration coinciding with the Republican National Convention, the expressive, overtly political nature of the conduct was both intentional and overwhelmingly apparent." The court concluded that, while "the government generally has a freer hand in restricting expressive conduct than it has in restricting the written or spoken word," it may not "proscribe particular conduct because it has expressive elements."
    Texas v. Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So we can never be quite sure of his 'opposing view' because, despite attending University, he is also an inarticulate yahoo.
    He felt that the student who was arrested was either treated unfairly or had his rights withheld. Seeing as the article doesn't mention what the student's statement was about but only focuses on blind save-our-flag patriotism, this is speculation.

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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Dood...what an AWESOME rebuttal. Let me guess...school is out. Fanfreqintastic. We get a fresh crop of...you.

    To many it does.
    Then these many need to reevaluate their interpretations of the U.S. Constitution.

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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The SCOTUS disagrees with you. In Texas vs. Johnson the court narrowly decided that:

    The court found that, "Under the circumstances, Johnson's burning of the flag constituted expressive conduct, permitting him to invoke the First Amendment... Occurring as it did at the end of a demonstration coinciding with the Republican National Convention, the expressive, overtly political nature of the conduct was both intentional and overwhelmingly apparent." The court concluded that, while "the government generally has a freer hand in restricting expressive conduct than it has in restricting the written or spoken word," it may not "proscribe particular conduct because it has expressive elements."
    Texas v. Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Well...at least you used something more effective than an 'I know you are but what am I" retort.

    Im not denying that it is a constitutionally guaranteed right to burn a flag. I am stating that MANY people (lets start with...oh...I dont know...the people at the LUS campus cited in the OP) see it as more than 'just' a freedom of speech issue. I cant imagine very many people that are actually stupid enough to believe that it doesnt cause extremes of response in people. Its more than just a freedom of speech.

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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Freedom of speech: "Say/do what you want until I'm offended, then stop".

    You choose to be offended by something. If you're offended by flag burning then don't take part in it. If you're offended by porn then don't watch it. If you're offended by curse words don't attend a sports event or go to a bar on a Friday night. Or, better yet, find out why it is so offensive to you and work out a way to avoid feeling so offended. Try rationalizing. Is the man burning that flag simultaneously telling you that the flag is symbolic of you, and f**k you? Is it necessary that two consenting adults who chose to screw on film be offensive to you? Why? Does it affect your life in any way?

    "I don't agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". To me, that's what the first amendment is about. Without the freedom to say and do as we please under the first amendment we would not be able to offer dissent against government policy, foreign influence, etc. We need it to make sure our desires are heard. Sometimes it's superfulous and unnecessary, but it's amazing that we can do it.
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    Re: Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatSandeno View Post
    Then these many need to reevaluate their interpretations of the U.S. Constitution.
    Try doing it in front of a group of veterans or...well heck...LSU college students...and maybe you would reevaluate your own.

    Again...no one is saying it isnt a constitutionaly protected act. Just dont be stupid enough to think you can do it in front of anyone other than a bunch of like minded assholes and idiots and expect it to NOT have consequences. That is all.

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