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    Re: Obama Tells Companies to 'Step Up' and Hire Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, this is a free country and if those companies want to pay a CEO $15 million, then that's their right...and I see no reason to change that.
    I agree, they have the right to do what they want just like teachers/police officers and unions have the right to fight for whatever salary they can get. Neither of these rights, however, has any bearing on people's different ideas of what people should or should not sacrifice. Moreover, neither of the rights has any effect on the fact a CEO who takes $15 million instead of hiring 300 people also contributes to the 9% unemployment rate.

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    Re: Obama Tells Companies to 'Step Up' and Hire Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So you agree with Bill Maher when he said, "**** your jobs"?

    Libbos can't exactly bitch about the lack of jobs, when The Messiah directly killed job with dumbass decisions.
    what Obama did was prevent another propect of a deepwater disaster. that was a wise decision

    in doing this he prevented the loss of jobs/income as had been experienced in the prior oil spill
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Obama Tells Companies to 'Step Up' and Hire Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I agree, they have the right to do what they want just like teachers/police officers and unions have the right to fight for whatever salary they can get. Neither of these rights, however, has any bearing on people's different ideas of what people should or should not sacrifice. Moreover, neither of the rights has any effect on the fact a CEO who takes $15 million instead of hiring 300 people also contributes to the 9% unemployment rate.
    Salaries are based on the value of the employee. That CEO might be making the company a billion dollars. Those 300 people might only make the company a million dollars. I'm sure you can do the math.

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    Re: Obama Tells Companies to 'Step Up' and Hire Workers

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    what Obama did was prevent another propect of a deepwater disaster. that was a wise decision

    in doing this he prevented the loss of jobs/income as had been experienced in the prior oil spill
    So, Obama actually saved jobs by banning drilling?

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    Re: Obama Tells Companies to 'Step Up' and Hire Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Salaries are based on the value of the employee. That CEO might be making the company a billion dollars. Those 300 people might only make the company a million dollars. I'm sure you can do the math.
    And they might not be.

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    Re: Obama Tells Companies to 'Step Up' and Hire Workers

    I just don't seem to understand how practicing anti-capitalistic behavior can improve a capitalistic economy.

    Pushing firms to hire people will only lead to them hiring more temporary positions, which will be the first ones laid off when the firm realizes how inefficient it is behaving.

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    Re: Obama Tells Companies to 'Step Up' and Hire Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Through over-regulation, threats of higher taxes, job killing regulations, yes he is. Believe it, or not, the drilling ban didn't create a single job.



    If Obama's anti-business agenda wasn't injecting so much uncertainty into the private sector, these companies would be spending that money, rather than rat-holing it in preparation for Obama's next dumbass move. The drilling ban is a good example. If I hadn't had as much cash in savings as I did, I would be out of business by now. The only problem, is that that money is nearly gone and no relief in sight. This time next year, I might have to put 5 men on the street, without a job and go find a job for myself. The reason these companies are sitting on that money, is so they can keep the doors open in the future, because they don't know how much more Obama is going to **** up the economy. If he raises taxes, they're going to need that money to pay them.

    Wasn't it you that said that the government can't create jobs, but it can institute policies that effect job creation? You and I agreed on that, if I recollect.
    Okay, I see where you're coming from. I agree partially.

    I believe the government CAN and SHOULD create jobs in certain public sectors, but apart from that, yes the government should focus on policies that allow the private sector to prosper.

    That being said, being President isn't just about making lives easier for business. You live in La., I'm sure you know how terrible the oil spill was for people's livelihoods down there. The drilling moratorium was put in place for a very good reason, and even in the aftermath, he recently opened up leases in the Atlantic and the Gulf Coast for drilling (which is more than any other President has done for drilling in the past two decades), because even HE admitted that we need to use the oil resources we have while developing green technology.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Obama Tells Companies to 'Step Up' and Hire Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatSandeno View Post
    I just don't seem to understand how practicing anti-capitalistic behavior can improve a capitalistic economy.

    Pushing firms to hire people will only lead to them hiring more temporary positions, which will be the first ones laid off when the firm realizes how inefficient it is behaving.
    Only if said firm hires irresponsibly.

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    Re: Obama Tells Companies to 'Step Up' and Hire Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Does that mean that it's not Bush's fault that the economy went into the ****ter?
    It's partially his fault, but I believe he got much more blame than was deserved.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Obama Tells Companies to 'Step Up' and Hire Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, Obama actually saved jobs by banning drilling?
    yes
    look at the incomes which would not have been lost had the deepwater horizon been prevented from operating as it was
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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