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San Francisco may be 1st city to cut Yellow Pages

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SAN FRANCISCO – "Let your fingers do the walking" could be replaced with "let your finger do the clicking" in San Francisco. It's poised to become the first U.S. city to restrict delivery of Yellow Pages business directories.

The Board of Supervisors cast a 10-1 first vote on Tuesday to ban unrequested home and business delivery of the hefty telephone directories. There will be a second reading and final vote next week.

The idea is to protect the environment, fight neighborhood blight and help the economy. And advocates say the Internet makes the directories unnecessary.

The Los Angeles Times reports nearly 1.6 million Yellow Pages directories are dropped on San Francisco doorsteps each year. The city says they generate 7 million pounds of paper waste and clog recycling equipment, leading to costly repairs.
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Good idea. If someone wants a copy of the Yellow Pages, they can request one. If they don't want one, then they can use the internet, like I do. Yea, I get Yellow Pages every year. I never use them. Neither do a lot of other people. So here's an area in which we can be greener, and at the same time, stop creating so much damn waste. Personally, I hope this comes to Houston eventually, as I regard getting something at my doorstep that I don't ask for as real spam, which is worse than the virtual spam I get in my email inbox.

Article is here.
 
I am always impressed how much information my mother can glean from the Yellow Pages™ when she visits; on the other hand she doesn't use the Internet at all.
 
danarhea said:
Good idea. If someone wants a copy of the Yellow Pages, they can request one. If they don't want one, then they can use the internet, like I do. Yea, I get Yellow Pages every year. I never use them. Neither do a lot of other people. So here's an area in which we can be greener, and at the same time, stop creating so much damn waste. Personally, I hope this comes to Houston eventually, as I regard getting something at my doorstep that I don't ask for as real spam, which is worse than the virtual spam I get in my email inbox.

Article is here.
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Great idea. But I'm not sure the government has the right to ban them. I wonder on what basis? What else has government ever banned like that?

They're irrelevant to me. I throw them out as soon as I find them on my porch. It's certainly a waste. But again, I question on what authority the government can ban something from being delivered to your door...
 
I haven't used one in years. however it's not the cities business what a company delivers to its customers.
 
danarhea said:
Good idea. If someone wants a copy of the Yellow Pages, they can request one. If they don't want one, then they can use the internet, like I do. Yea, I get Yellow Pages every year. I never use them. Neither do a lot of other people. So here's an area in which we can be greener, and at the same time, stop creating so much damn waste. Personally, I hope this comes to Houston eventually, as I regard getting something at my doorstep that I don't ask for as real spam, which is worse than the virtual spam I get in my email inbox.

Article is here.
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How is it greener? I would not imagine there to be a significant environmental gain.
 
danarhea said:
Good idea. If someone wants a copy of the Yellow Pages, they can request one. If they don't want one, then they can use the internet, like I do. Yea, I get Yellow Pages every year. I never use them. Neither do a lot of other people. So here's an area in which we can be greener, and at the same time, stop creating so much damn waste. Personally, I hope this comes to Houston eventually, as I regard getting something at my doorstep that I don't ask for as real spam, which is worse than the virtual spam I get in my email inbox.

Article is here.
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I use both books white and yellow pages for fire starter.. :) Very handy to have around.. :)


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MaggieD said:
Great idea. But I'm not sure the government has the right to ban them. I wonder on what basis? What else has government ever banned like that?

They're irrelevant to me. I throw them out as soon as I find them on my porch. It's certainly a waste. But again, I question on what authority the government can ban something from being delivered to your door...
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They are not banned. If someone wants a Yellow Pages, they can request one to be sent to them. Works for me.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
I haven't used one in years. however it's not the cities business what a company delivers to its customers.
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Of course it's not. But if they are being sent unsolicited, then those who receive them are NOT customers at all.
 
MaggieD said:
Great idea. But I'm not sure the government has the right to ban them. I wonder on what basis? What else has government ever banned like that?

They're irrelevant to me. I throw them out as soon as I find them on my porch. It's certainly a waste. But again, I question on what authority the government can ban something from being delivered to your door...
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But this isn't what is happening.

So, on a similar note, I don't really see what authority the government uses to ban peanut butter :mad:
 
I am shocked that so many learned people don't know the real reason for this ban. It's because San Franfreako got a complaint from an Asian that was upset over use of the name Yellow Pages.

It then became a question of what color to make the Business pages to differentiate those pages from the general pages, after that any can now see that brown, black, red, atc. are all out of the question, and to make the general pages bright white, well that would piss everyone off because now white is being favored.

This is why the general pages which have always been "off white" and for the most part out numbered the "Yellow " pages by at least at least 4 or 5 to 1.

I can now remove my tongue from my cheek and move on to reality. Who cares? Seriously!
 
Councilman said:
I am shocked that so many learned people don't know the real reason for this ban. It's because San Franfreako got a complaint from an Asian that was upset over use of the name Yellow Pages.

It then became a question of what color to make the Business pages to differentiate those pages from the general pages, after that any can now see that brown, black, red, atc. are all out of the question, and to make the general pages bright white, well that would piss everyone off because now white is being favored.

This is why the general pages which have always been "off white" and for the most part out numbered the "Yellow " pages by at least at least 4 or 5 to 1.

I can now remove my tongue from my cheek and move on to reality. Who cares? Seriously!
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BUT MY FREEDOM

...to have unsolicited and immensely wasteful, useless paper delivered to my door and promptly thrown out.
 
Banning the yellow pages is like banning vinyl records. What's the point? They've outlived their usefulness for anyone who is not still stuck in the 20th. century. They're on their way to the museum anyway.

Would they ban slide rules?

Now, as for those classified ads. What's the point? You can advertise on Craig's List, you can put things up for auction on ebay, or you can pay for an ad no one reads. Why does anyone choose the latter any more?
 
Deuce said:
BUT MY FREEDOM

...to have unsolicited and immensely wasteful, useless paper delivered to my door and promptly thrown out.
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Are you kidding? Why do you think I don't speak out agains't this new idea. Hard to beliece but I have been all about true logical conservation since before many here were born I'm thinking.

Here is something I just pulled off my Poetry page It's an award winning one I wrote way back in the 70s and had it Copyrighted in 2007 when it won the Editors Choice Award.


The Early Morning Chill Is Gone

The early morning chill is gone the lake is clean and clear
In the distance meadow sounds begin to slowly fill the air
The mist is light and eerie in the sunshine through the trees
Sun rays that dance on the forest floor discolor wilting leaves

Look a panorama of colors all around
The air is clean the grass is green. No human to be found
It's early spring in high country. It's peaceful sitting here
Till cars and trucks take over and high country disappears

A brook with sparkling water runs briskly down a hill
To rainbow trout and beaver ponds
That it will help to fill
I wish that I could save them for my children's child to see
But they'll tear it down to build a town
No one listens much to me

Look a panorama of colors all around
The air is clean the grass is green
No human to be found
It's early spring in high country
It's peaceful sitting here
Till cars and trucks take over and high country disappears

Copyright ©2007 Dave Mitchell
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Councilman said:
I am shocked that so many learned people don't know the real reason for this ban. It's because San Franfreako got a complaint from an Asian that was upset over use of the name Yellow Pages.

It then became a question of what color to make the Business pages to differentiate those pages from the general pages, after that any can now see that brown, black, red, atc. are all out of the question, and to make the general pages bright white, well that would piss everyone off because now white is being favored.

This is why the general pages which have always been "off white" and for the most part out numbered the "Yellow " pages by at least at least 4 or 5 to 1.

I can now remove my tongue from my cheek and move on to reality. Who cares? Seriously!
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That's OK. They are also removing the Peckerwood Pages, so it all evens out. :mrgreen:
 
While I don't believe it is the government's place to ban them, for most of us, they have outlived their usefulness. Back in the 80s and 90s, they were very helpful to find what you wanted and if you are not hooked up, they can still be. So, perhaps the phone companies could realize this fact and save paper and expenses by making them available by request. However, government bans? Not crazy about that idea... but in the world of Govenor Moonbeam...
 
I see no problem.

It's a waste of paper to send them out en mass, only to be tossed by people who don't want them.

If you want one, request one - otherwise, use the net, which is not all that hard.
 
Temporal said:
I see no problem.

It's a waste of paper to send them out en mass, only to be tossed by people who don't want them.

If you want one, request one - otherwise, use the net, which is not all that hard.
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Exactly. We are not customers until WE request something. Otherwise, I could be free to spam everybody's email with a new weight loss product, and claim it's OK because my target audience consists of CUSTOMERS. LMAO.
 
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