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AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

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WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's approval rating has hit its highest point in two years — 60 percent — and more than half of Americans now say he deserves to be re-elected, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll taken after U.S. forces killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.
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OK, so Obama is on a roll right now, but the 2012 election is still a year and a half away, and we still have very serious problems. Come election time, these serious issues are what will be dominating the political landscape, as the bin Laden kill fades into the sunset.

I still don't plan to vote for Obama in 2012, as I believe that, under his leadership, America is going in a very wrong direction. However, I can't discount what he did with bin Laden. So, grudgingly, I have to say "Well done, Mr. President". I am not crazy about how this has bumped him up in the polls, but dammit, I have to put our country ahead of petty politics, so I am giving credit where credit is due. But, again, I say that the next election is still a year and a half away. At that time, Americans will be saying "What have you done for me lately". If Obama can't do for the economy what he did for getting rid of bin Laden, I say that he will be in serious trouble, and will be vulnerable. However, for the moment, I will let him bask in the popularity he has now. He deserves that.

Article is here.
 
You phony conservative!
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
:lol:


Latest AP Poll Sample Skews to Democrats by 17 Points - By Jim Geraghty - The Campaign Spot - National Review Online
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Why post a link to some guy whining about the poll results? He does try hard to suggest they are inaccurate, but even he had to admit:

Of course, the OBL kill could have prompted more Americans to self-identify as Democrats. Some pollsters are okay with dramatic shifts in their party ID from poll to poll; they see respondents’ party self-identification as flexible, even fickle, changing from week to week and month to month.
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Mighty big fail there Rev.
 
Redress said:
Why post a link to some guy whining about the poll results? He does try hard to suggest they are inaccurate, but even he had to admit:



Mighty big fail there Rev.
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The only fail here is your FAILURE to read the article! LOL He didn't complain about the results, his entire article was about the demographic that was polled. A 17% greater number of democrats were polled than republicans. I can promise, had the poll shown he lost points and showed a 17% skew in the direction of republicans, the democrats would be all over this poll's demographic pointing out the bias. :roll:
 
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What was George Bush senior's approval rating immediately following Desert Storm?
 
dontworrybehappy said:
The only fail here is your FAILURE to read the article! LOL He didn't complain about the results, his entire article was about the demographic that was polled. :roll:
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He tries and fails to call into question the results of the poll, but even he has to admit that he has no real evidence to go on. You have a conservative blogger posting on a conservative site, who provides zero evidence to back up his point(though he does manage to break out some old polls at republican peak popularity to try and suggest something), and you think he has done some great job. LoLz

Note he did not question the sampling method nor the wording of the questions, he just latched onto something which even he admits can be explained away.
 
Normally, I find the back and forth between the parties over polling data simultaneously annoying/amusing. This one, though, I'm not sure why they even bothered publishing. It seems unquestionably off.
 
Redress said:
Why post a link to some guy whining about the poll results? He does try hard to suggest they are inaccurate, but even he had to admit:



Mighty big fail there Rev.
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Not really, but you be all selective at the facts there Redress..... The fail is all yours.


I have no doubt of a "bump" but polls are for sheep. You can get a poll to say whatever you want, a 17 percent favor towards democrats, means that this poll is probably not very accurate.. At least it does for me. and if this were the case and I was the AP, I'd scrap the poll and try again. simple as that.

Nothing more, nothing less. :shrug:
 
The latest Rassmussen Daily tracking poll put Obama back close to where he was before Osama because the bump he got is being over shadowed by the Economy and the Real Job numbers.

All the Liberals who are counting on the Osama shooting to make up for Obama's failure in everything else, check yourself in for a mental evaluation.


It's important to start treatment ASAP.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 25% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Thirty-seven percent (37%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -12
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Redress said:
He tries and fails to call into question the results of the poll, but even he has to admit that he has no real evidence to go on. You have a conservative blogger posting on a conservative site, who provides zero evidence to back up his point(though he does manage to break out some old polls at republican peak popularity to try and suggest something), and you think he has done some great job. LoLz

Note he did not question the sampling method nor the wording of the questions, he just latched onto something which even he admits can be explained away.
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So the fact that he is a conservative blogger, automatically calls his integrity into question?


Are you calling him a liar? are you suggesting the sample did not contain 17 point sampling in favor of democrats? Please redress by all means, show me your evidence other than "hes a conservative poopyhead". thanks
 
Councilman said:
The latest Rassmussen Daily tracking poll put Obama back close to where he was before Osama because the bump he got is being over shadowed by the Economy and the Real Job numbers.

All the Liberals who are counting on the Osama shooting to make up for Obama's failure in everything else, check yourself in for a mental evaluation.


It's important to start treatment ASAP.
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that's the point, Rasmussen could have sampled more republicans to get this result, do you have the data? Polls are for sheep.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
So the fact that he is a conservative blogger, automatically calls his integrity into question?
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Did I mention his integrity? Did I say he was lying? Heap big fail with that straw man.


Are you calling him a liar? are you suggesting the sample did not contain 17 point sampling in favor of democrats? Please redress by all means, show me your evidence other than "hes a conservative poopyhead". thanks
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Did I call him a liar or a poopyhead? So that is another heap big fail of a straw man.

Did he not also explain why the poll might have more self identified democrats? Why yes he did, being that he is in fact honest, and just trying to spin results he did not like. I actually give the guy credit. He was too honest to not admit that there where perfectly good explanations for his results.

Now, do you have any objections to my comments that are not straw men or that actually do address what I said?
 
Objective Voice said:
Rev,

I wonder what the Rassmussen poll says. I'm sure there's no party lean to it either. :roll:
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read post 14 then get back to me. :roll:


Also from your link all of them are within a couple points of each other, except 1. Polls are for sheep and partisan hacks.
 
Redress said:
Why post a link to some guy whining about the poll results? He does try hard to suggest they are inaccurate...
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But then you get to the party ID: 46 percent identify as Democrat or leaning Democrat, 29 percent identify as Republican or leaning Republican, 4 percent identify as purely independent leaning towards neither party, and 20 percent answered, “I don’t know.”
For contrast, the AP’s immediate preceding poll was 45 percent Democrat, 33 percent Republican; the likely-voter pool in October 2010 was 43 percent Democrat, 48 percent Republican. The poll’s total sample in October 2010 split 43 percent Democrat, 40 percent Republican.

With a poll sample that has a 17-percentage-point margin in favor of the Democrats, is anyone surprised that these results look like a David Axelrod dream?
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You don't think a 17% skew in the Dems favor is a little out of the ordinary?

How very... liberal of you.

If someone posted a poll skewed in the GOPs favor, you'd be all over them like white on rice, claiming either the poll doesnt matter or the poll was unfairly slanted in the GOP's favor.
 
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Redress said:
Did I mention his integrity? Did I say he was lying? Heap big fail with that straw man.

Did I call him a liar or a poopyhead? So that is another heap big fail of a straw man.
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You inferred it, if you can't see it, I can't help you.

Did he not also explain why the poll might have more self identified democrats? Why yes he did, being that he is in fact honest, and just trying to spin results he did not like. I actually give the guy credit. He was too honest to not admit that there where perfectly good explanations for his results.

Now, do you have any objections to my comments that are not straw men or that actually do address what I said?
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So wait, is he whining, or are you giving him credit?


Please feel free to address my points to councilman, my response to your response to DWBH, and finally, my response to OV.

Thank you.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
read post 14 then get back to me. :roll:


Also from your link all of them are within a couple points of each other, except 1. Polls are for sheep and partisan hacks.
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Neither yours nor Councilman's commentary were posted to the forum (posts #11 or #14) at the time of my posting. But now that I see it, I'm glad you acknowledge that the samplings can be sked depending on what side of the political divide is being questioned versus a mix of all sides.
 
Objective Voice said:
Neither yours nor Councilman's commentary were posted to the forum (posts #11 or #14) at the time of my posting. But now that I see it, I'm glad you acknowledge that the samplings can be sked depending on what side of the political divide is being questioned versus a mix of all sides.
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that is inaccurate. I have maintained that polls can be skewed for as long as I have been posting, I posted my response a full minute before yours, and I did not "acknowledge" anything, I made the ****ing point. Jeesh.
 
Another thought on this. I wouldn't be suprised to see obama at 60/70/ even 80% over the bin laden issue, but the fact, that this poll skewed to a heavy democrat sample means its crap, and crap that should have been thrown out in order to get a more realistic sample.

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