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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You can be such a blatant hypocrite sometimes. There are over 400+ posts of yours slamming Obama because of low poll ratings. Now all of the sudden polls are for sheep? Hahah Oh Reverend.
    polls with a 17 point advantage for one side or the other (as in, polling 17% more Democrats than Republicans, or visa versa) are for sheep.

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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent



    Selective searching on my posts makes you look dishonest. I have long maintained polls can be skewed in favor of whatever outcome one wishes. But don't let that stop you from getting snotty with me.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...ent-obama.html

    You can be such a blatant hypocrite sometimes. There are over 200+ posts of yours slamming Obama because of low poll ratings. Now all of the sudden polls are for sheep? Hahah Oh Reverend.

    Name calling? Really now....


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    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Polls are for sheep. You can get a pol to say whatever you want.


    There is on example. Show me an example where I ever defended a poll, Have I used them in debate sure., but I will always admit they can be used for whatever one wants.

    Prove me wrong.



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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Fact: poll sampled a heavily skewed group of people in favor of democrats.


    A responsible polling agency, would have thrown it out and tried again. Look at the RCP link, one of those polls is not like the others..... Which one if you had to take 3 would you choose? One is an anomaly....


    Believe what you want dude, It's really not something to get snotty over.
    So to you a responsible polling agency is one that throws out results until they get the ones they want? Your only complaint so far is with the results of the poll, not at all with the methodology, and you continue to ignore the comments in your very own source that explain why the results could be what they are.

    Combine that with saying polls are for sheep when you have created threads based on polls yourself just makes this all laughable.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Selective searching on my posts makes you look dishonest. I have long maintained polls can be skewed in favor of whatever outcome one wishes. But don't let that stop you from getting snotty with me.
    That was not a "selective search". It also proves that polls are only for sheep, except when you use them.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    yeah, if your sample size = serial killer worshippers.
    Bottom line, this poll proves without a shadow of a doubt how screwy these things can be. His overall approval rating is no where close to that mark. It's hard to walk outside and find someone who supports him. Very hard.

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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Bottom line, this poll proves without a shadow of a doubt how screwy these things can be. His overall approval rating is no where close to that mark. It's hard to walk outside and find someone who supports him. Very hard.
    That may be true for you, but not all of us live in North Texas.

    My beef with approval ratings is that "approve" vs. "disapprove" are such general and inaccurate terms. How bout "I think he is doing a mediocre job"? Where is that option?
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So to you a responsible polling agency is one that throws out results until they get the ones they want?

    I believe you are smarter than that, but I will explain anyway. If you get an anomoly, such as a higher percentage of one group in your sample, than you or your peer get, perhaps the poll is innaccurate.


    Your only complaint so far is with the results of the poll, not at all with the methodology, and you continue to ignore the comments in your very own source that explain why the results could be what they are.

    Perhaps it's because I don't discount that possibility, however it's not the only one, but that sure is a good reason for you to hone in on one small portion to attack me personally.



    Combine that with saying polls are for sheep when you have created threads based on polls yourself just makes this all laughable.

    Wow, again, show me where I have ever denied that polls could be used for whatever position one holds. Stop lying redress, it's getting rather pathetic.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Your only complaint so far is with the results of the poll, not at all with the methodology...
    mine, as I stated above, is the methodology. Polling too heavily on one side or the other will naturally slant the results in favor of that side.

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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That was not a "selective search". It also proves that polls are only for sheep, except when you use them.


    really redress, anything else you want to talk about me on, I mean really this thread is on an obama poll but searching my posts selectivley for a "gotcha" attack is really helping this thread along.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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