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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    I don't care what his approval rating is, he's still a crappy president.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    read post 14 then get back to me.


    Also from your link all of them are within a couple points of each other, except 1. Polls are for sheep and partisan hacks.
    Neither yours nor Councilman's commentary were posted to the forum (posts #11 or #14) at the time of my posting. But now that I see it, I'm glad you acknowledge that the samplings can be sked depending on what side of the political divide is being questioned versus a mix of all sides.

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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Neither yours nor Councilman's commentary were posted to the forum (posts #11 or #14) at the time of my posting. But now that I see it, I'm glad you acknowledge that the samplings can be sked depending on what side of the political divide is being questioned versus a mix of all sides.

    that is inaccurate. I have maintained that polls can be skewed for as long as I have been posting, I posted my response a full minute before yours, and I did not "acknowledge" anything, I made the ****ing point. Jeesh.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    that's the point, Rasmussen could have sampled more republicans to get this result, do you have the data? Polls are for sheep.
    I find that Rassmussen does the best, most accurate, least partisan polling.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Another thought on this. I wouldn't be suprised to see obama at 60/70/ even 80% over the bin laden issue, but the fact, that this poll skewed to a heavy democrat sample means its crap, and crap that should have been thrown out in order to get a more realistic sample.

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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    approval ratings are usually nonsense, and the public mind is fickle. Kill a terrorist, your ratings go up by 10 points. Price of gas goes up, you get crucified, even if you don't control gas prices.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    approval ratings are usually nonsense, and the public mind is fickle. Kill a terrorist, your ratings go up by 10 points. Price of gas goes up, you get crucified, even if you don't control gas prices.


    Wasn't there a tsunami or something in japan some time ago? I can't seem to remember.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Wasn't there a tsunami or something in japan some time ago? I can't seem to remember.
    The public memory is like Guy Pearce's condition in the movie Memento.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The public memory is like Guy Pearce's condition in the movie Memento.



    Charlie who?
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I find that Rassmussen does the best, most accurate, least partisan polling.
    Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere


    I basically go by Rasmussen and Gallup also...they make their living strictly on polling and cant afford to give the impression they are totally skewed to one side.
    UsaToday seems to run some decently accurate polls also, they usually work coupled with another news org.

    Having said all that, I dont believe for one second Obama is anywhere near 60%

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