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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Did anyone hear what Dubbya's first comment to Obama when he was informed of the death?

    Bush tells Obama on bin Laden: "Good call" - Yahoo! News

    Bush said he was eating souffles at a Dallas restaurant with his wife, Laura, and two friends when he got word that Obama, his successor as president, was trying to reach him.

    "I excused myself and went home to take the call," Bush said. "Obama simply said, 'Osama bin Laden is dead.'"

    After Obama described in detail the secret U.S. raid on Osama's compound in Pakistan and the decision he made to go ahead with the mission, Bush said he told Obama: "Good call."

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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is false and would actually lead to inaccurate results.
    I suggest you look the term "weighting" and get back to me.

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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Just goes to show that Americans dig wars, even closet hawks come out.

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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I suggest you look the term "weighting" and get back to me.
    SO you are claiming that by throwing out inconvenient results, polls are more accurate, and that the way to make a public opinion poll accurate is to only poll an atypical selection of people. Get back to me when you know something about polling.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    you lied about my position and attacked me relentlessly, being rather uncivil and snotty to me, misrepresenting what I say, and framing it in a way so you can lie and call me a hypocrite. Very classy, dude.
    This is untrue.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Now if you added actually reading the thread, you'd see that is not strictly the case. I, for example, said at least twice that when you poll more to one demographic than another, and get a result that favors the demographic you polled more to, it is a skewed result. Dem... GOP.. doesn't matter which way.
    So, you were saying that the poll was flawed... and you are a conservative. So, I was correct. Thank you.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    SO you are claiming that by throwing out inconvenient results, polls are more accurate, and that the way to make a public opinion poll accurate is to only poll an atypical selection of people. Get back to me when you know something about polling.

    FAQs: Weighting
    Why do we weight our results?

    Accurate polling requires the demographic breakdown of a survey to closely resemble the same breakdown for the population you are trying to measure. For example, North Carolina likely voters breakdown about 53%-47% women to men and about 77%-18%-5% white to black to “other” and we try to have our surveys match those ratios as close as possible.

    One drawback of IVR polling is that you are not sure of exactly who you are interviewing until the end of the survey. We can’t set quotas for demographics like traditional pollsters, so we just let the telephone calls run and then work with the data after the fact.

    Traditional pollsters can manipulate their respondents during the survey by beginning each survey by asking for the “second oldest woman in the household” or some other method so that they reach their quotas for demographic groups like gender and race.

    The most common demographic “problem” for us is that more women answer the surveys relative to men, and not enough African-Americans answer our surveys. To achieve relatively accurate demographic breakdowns we have to employ weighting schemes.

    How do we weight?

    The first step in weighting we achieve by surveying more than enough people. That allows us to go back and randomly reject individual surveys from demographics that are overrepresented. For example, if you saw one of our surveys with 500 respondents, in actuality 600 people may have answered the survey, but we had to reject 100 female responses. It’s like using a quota but after the fact, and our random selection eliminates any potential bias from the rejections.

    We also employ a mathematical weighting scheme that will assign a weight based on one demographic. For example, if a survey is 82% white and 13% black, but needs to be 77% white and 17% black the weighting formula can take care of that mathematically.
    Public Policy Polling: FAQs: Weighting

    Now, what were you saying about getting back to you when I learned something about polling?????????

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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    I suggest you use the Rassmusen Polls they do a better more balanced poll than any one, besides the poll this thread is based on is as phony as a 2 dollar bill. They knowingly used 32% Liberals and 22 % Conservatives to come up with these phony numbers.


    Rassmusen does a Daily Tracking pole and much more.

    Generic Presidential Ballot - Rasmussen Reports™
    Voters are fairly evenly divided over whether they want to give President Obama a second term in the White House.
    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that the president currently earns support from 45% of Likely Voters across the nation, while a Generic Republican attracts 43% of the vote. Rasmussen Reports will provide new data on this generic match up each week until the field of prospective Republican nominees narrows to a few serious contenders

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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Public Policy Polling: FAQs: Weighting

    Now, what were you saying about getting back to you when I learned something about polling?????????
    The problem is your are not understanding what this is saying. Using the examples in your quote, the ratio of women or minorities is known, in advance, and is not volatile. The number of people who self identify as democrats is not known in advance, and chances all the time.
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    Re: AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

    Love it.

    "Obama's poll numbers are down"

    YEAH! Go America! Nothing wrong with that poll.

    "Obama's poll numbers are up".

    Poll is bad!

    And you know, even if you are right, this happens EVERY SINGLE TIME a poll shows good, you always gotta try and discredit it, I'll be waiting for you to have the same objectivity on a negative poll about Obama... Or probably not.

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