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Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

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Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns - FoxNews.com

The Florida Senate passed House Bill 155 last month by a 27-10 vote and the measure now awaits the signature of Republican Gov. Rick Scott. If signed, it would ban doctors from asking about the presence of guns or ammunition in the home.

Republican State Rep. Jason Brodeur, a sponsor of the bill, proposed the legislation following an incident in which a Florida pediatrician told a mother to find another doctor when she refused to answer questions about guns in her home.

Critics of the bill, however, claim that doctors need to ask patients about guns to ensure their safety and to make sure they remain out of the reach of children.

I do not own a gun. However, I am actually a card carrying NRA member and I support fair and sensible gun ownership rights. I also support fair and sensible restrictions on gun ownership. The two positions are not mutually exclusive.

Having said that, I have no idea why a physician should have anything to do with gun safety. A physicians job is to medically treat their patients... not check on the safety of any weapons in the home.
 
There's been an issue with the, um, APA I think it was? Maybe it was the CDC...anyway... Telling doctors to ask their patients about their guns and other nosy questions as if it were health related.
 
There's been an issue with the, um, APA I think it was? Maybe it was the CDC...anyway... Telling doctors to ask their patients about their guns and other nosy questions as if it were health related.

My ownership and storage of a firearm has nothing to do with the cold I have, or my bunion, or my migraine headaches. I usually like to give physicians some latitude on things, but this is one where I don't feel I can. For them to say gun safety or storage is health related is simply inaccurate.
 
Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns - FoxNews.com





I do not own a gun. However, I am actually a card carrying NRA member and I support fair and sensible gun ownership rights. I also support fair and sensible restrictions on gun ownership. The two positions are not mutually exclusive.

Having said that, I have no idea why a physician should have anything to do with gun safety. A physicians job is to medically treat their patients... not check on the safety of any weapons in the home.

That may be the case, but less it's a medical emergency I think a private practicioner can choose to see or not see anyone he wants for whatever reason he wants.
 
Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns - FoxNews.com

I do not own a gun. However, I am actually a card carrying NRA member and I support fair and sensible gun ownership rights. I also support fair and sensible restrictions on gun ownership. The two positions are not mutually exclusive.

Having said that, I have no idea why a physician should have anything to do with gun safety. A physicians job is to medically treat their patients... not check on the safety of any weapons in the home.

Well, I absolutely agree with you, but, by the same token, I have absolutely no idea why a legislature would pass a law against it. That just seems ridiculous. What happened to, "That's none of your business?"
 
That seems to be the basis of this thread and the law; yes.

Really? Please. Show me where I even implied physicians don't have a right to treat or not treat whom ever they please.

The purpose of the article and thread was to say that physicians do not have a right to pry into the non-medical private lives of their patients.

Perhaps you need to re-read the article in the OP, and then the subsequent posts, so you better comprehend their meaning.
 
Really? Please. Show me where I even implied physicians don't have a right to treat or not treat whom ever they please.

The purpose of the article and thread was to say that physicians do not have a right to pry into the non-medical private lives of their patients.

Perhaps you need to re-read the article in the OP, and then the subsequent posts, so you better comprehend their meaning.

Blah blah blah, guns have nothing to do, blah blah blah. What the **** do you think you were doing? I said "a private practitioner can choose to see or not see anyone he wants for whatever reason he wants". You wanted to know where you even implied differently. Yet here you are once again bitching that this isn't proper for the physician to do. Well WTF is it then? Make up your mind. Do they have the right to see or not see anyone for whatever reason or is he restricted in what he can ask and what he can refuse? Do you support the law? If so, then you most certainly not only imply but endorse the restriction of the private practitioners from denying service to whomever they want for whatever reason they want.

There was nothing wrong with him asking the question, nothing wrong with telling the potiential client to find a new doctor. End of story.
 
I love the idea of banning doctors from asking if you have a gun,hopefully they extend that other nosy people.
 
seeking advice from doctors about guns is like asking Wayne LaPierre what course of treatment he suggests for colitis or sleep apnea
 
I'm not the most pro-2nd Amendment member on this board.

However. Why the **** does a doctor need to know about your guns and ammo?
 
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Hey.... Who, Ikari.... take it easy, mmmkay?
 
If I have a patient who is suicidal, ethically and legally I need to ask them about their access to act on this suicidality. I always ask if their are guns or other weapons available.
 
If I have a patient who is suicidal, ethically and legally I need to ask them about their access to act on this suicidality. I always ask if their are guns or other weapons available.

What about PBR?
 
I'm not the most pro-2nd Amendment member on this board.

However. Why the **** does a doctor need to know about your guns and ammo?

Other than a back door firearms registry? Maybe the anti-2nd amendment loons are hoping to have some sort study to correlate firearm ownership with health problems.
 
If I have a patient who is suicidal, ethically and legally I need to ask them about their access to act on this suicidality. I always ask if their are guns or other weapons available.

I think the bill is referring to real doctors not quacks or shrinks.:mrgreen:
 
Blah blah blah, guns have nothing to do, blah blah blah. What the **** do you think you were doing? I said "a private practitioner can choose to see or not see anyone he wants for whatever reason he wants". You wanted to know where you even implied differently. Yet here you are once again bitching that this isn't proper for the physician to do. Well WTF is it then? Make up your mind. Do they have the right to see or not see anyone for whatever reason or is he restricted in what he can ask and what he can refuse? Do you support the law? If so, then you most certainly not only imply but endorse the restriction of the private practitioners from denying service to whomever they want for whatever reason they want.

There was nothing wrong with him asking the question, nothing wrong with telling the potiential client to find a new doctor. End of story.

lighten up... get a grip... etc.

This has NOTHING to do with who a doctor treats...it has EVERYTHING to do with what a doctor can ask a patient about their NON MEDICAL PRIVATES LIVES.

If you want to read something else into it, that is on you.
 
lighten up... get a grip... etc.

This has NOTHING to do with who a doctor treats...it has EVERYTHING to do with what a doctor can ask a patient about their NON MEDICAL PRIVATES LIVES.

If you want to read something else into it, that is on you.

Alright, I DO think it's kind strange for a doctor to ask about firearms in the house. But I see no need to pass a LAW BANNING it. What's wrong with just saying "none of your business?" Why does there actually have to be a ban on asking such a question?
 
Alright, I DO think it's kind strange for a doctor to ask about firearms in the house. But I see no need to pass a LAW BANNING it. What's wrong with just saying "none of your business?" Why does there actually have to be a ban on asking such a question?

A back door fire arm registry and maybe this scenario playing out-

Doctor: Do you have firearms and or ammunition?
Patient: None of your damn business.
Doctor: Then I can't provide you with any medical service.
Patient: Fine I will go to a doctor who doesn't stick their nose into my personal business.
Doctor: Good luck, They might be more expensive that me and or all doctors are now asking about your firearms.
 
back door fire arm registry and this scenario

Doctor: Do you have firearms and or ammunition?
Patient: None of your damn business.
Doctor: Then I can't provide you with any medical service.
Patient: Fine I will go to a doctor who doesn't stick their nose into my personal business.
Doctor: Good luck, They might be more expensive that me and or all doctors are now asking about your firearms.

Backdoor firearms registry - how accurate would such data be without actual verification? Don't think the Feds necessarily want to trust info given only verbally. Plus if I were a doctor it'd be a pain in the ass to do this for the government. I'm a doctor, not an ATF agent.

As for the second situation - I pretty much agree with Ikari. If you own a private medical practice, it's your business who you want to cater to and who you don't. If you turn away a potential customer because he owns some guns, I might think that that individual is dumb for turning away good business, but it's perfectly within his rights to do so. The patient could go find another doc if he wanted, it's all about competition right?
 
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