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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    seeking advice from doctors about guns is like asking Wayne LaPierre what course of treatment he suggests for colitis or sleep apnea



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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    I'm not the most pro-2nd Amendment member on this board.

    However. Why the **** does a doctor need to know about your guns and ammo?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    If I have a patient who is suicidal, ethically and legally I need to ask them about their access to act on this suicidality. I always ask if their are guns or other weapons available.
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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    If I have a patient who is suicidal, ethically and legally I need to ask them about their access to act on this suicidality. I always ask if their are guns or other weapons available.
    Ah okay now that makes some sense.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
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    That was easy.
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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    If I have a patient who is suicidal, ethically and legally I need to ask them about their access to act on this suicidality. I always ask if their are guns or other weapons available.
    What about PBR?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm not the most pro-2nd Amendment member on this board.

    However. Why the **** does a doctor need to know about your guns and ammo?
    Other than a back door firearms registry? Maybe the anti-2nd amendment loons are hoping to have some sort study to correlate firearm ownership with health problems.
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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What about PBR?
    Peanut Butter and Rifles?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Peanut Butter and Rifles?
    You know what, that's just blasphemous. PBR is the beer of freedom!
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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